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Friday, March 17, 2006

Sexual assault case questioned

Here's someone who cared enough about the Arena football players didn't do it story to email me:

  • Just as Laura Crews, the Kentucky woman who earlier this year filed false rape charges leading to a costly helicopter search in the I-29 area of the airport and wasted police man-hours was made to compensate for the expenses, this Johnson County woman also should be held accountable and repay KCPD for wasted time spent on this investigation.
  • This story sounded fishy from the start. What reputable woman leaves a friend at 2 a.m. to go "party" with a group of strange men, professional Arena football players, in their hotel room? Truth be told, her actions probably resulted because she wasn't compensated according to her expectations.

I can't agree. Unlike Laura Crews, something apparently actually happened to this woman. From Star reporter Christine Vendel's story:

  • The woman said one of the local men grabbed her arms while the other put his hands down her pants. She said she struggled with them and fled the room. She said she believed the attack lasted a minute or so and that no one else was in the room at the time.

Aren't police right to just drop this case, as the sobered-up lady asked?

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What is sad about this is that the ball players were named as suspects and the bus was halted before it left town. Hotel rooms were sealed off and searched. Players were questioned and DNA samples obtained. This was no mere "mistake" or "misidentification". This needs to be checked into. She wasted valuable time and people who were not the suspects were detained. In short she needs to answer.

This is nothing new for the police department. Countless man hours spent ivestigating to only have the victim back out after wasting alot of time and money.

This whole story is a joke. The heifer should be charged with filing a false police report and made to compensate the football team that was delayed. She wasted officer's time, city money, the ball players' time, etc because she got drunk and acted like a tramp. What respectable female is going to leave with two men that she just met in a bar. The lady needs some self esteem therapy!

Hate to disagree folks, but there are a multitude of reasons victims drop charges against people. People should be prosecuted for intentionally making false police reports, but the second the police start prosecuting people just because they drop charges, the already low crime reporting rate drops even lower.

Oooooheeee. Take me home. ALL of you. Yes, I want the whole room of you. Big BIG strong football players. (Yes I'm drunk). Have your way with me and when I wake up and feel stooopidly foolish and sober. I am going to charge you all with RAPE!

Gurls are dumb.

I believe that in this case (I think all cases need to be evaluated on a case by case basis) it would cost more to prosecute and tie up the court from addressing more serious offenses.
I myself to believe something happened. As far as the girl leaving to go party, younger people do some strange things and the lure of them being football players had to add to it. If she was drinking, it would impair her judgment. If she was raped, I don't believe that she asked for it merely by going to the party.

Even in this day and age, the DOUBLE STANDARD is alive and well it seems. I thought we would have progressed beyond it. Several of the remarks above question the girls character and beyond that deteriorate to name calling. She did nothing the ballplayers didn't do. Where is the outrage over that. Why isn't anyone call them names (not that I recommend it, its just a point).
I guess its just a case of BOYS WILL BE BOYS.

The only name the football players could be called would be INNOCENT! If they would have raped her then they would be rapist. She made the decision - under the influence or not to leave the bar with 5 men she did not know. Yes, maybe the news is not reporting the whole story. If she was touched she was violated but to point out innocent people and then say oops I got my story mixed up! Come on. This is a story of "oh people are going to think bad of me, heck I think bad of myself - let me make up something quick". There are so many females out there that think sleeping with a band member, the President, a sports player is a meal ticket. No woman should be touched without her consent but to be so confused to not even remotely get the story correct. She must have been on something more then martinis. My question is if she was touched and so quick to pick out 5 guys from the football team why now drop the charges when it was 2 no-name guys that did the touching?

The gurl is a piece of garbage

My My. Poor little gurl. Did you get swabbed at the hospital? What did they find?

Hi Matt!

Gee. A girl can go out and get gangbanged. She feels remorse and people feel sorry for the thing. How about feeling sorry for the guys (yes they got called names - "suspect", rapist, etc.) False reports of rape happen more often than people suspect. Just doesn't make the news!!!!!!!!!!

She's a PIG. Sorry pigs - no offense.

Hey you sorry sl*t. Did you have fun working the pole at the empire room. Than you went back to the motel rooms. Couldn't handle all them poles could you?

I want the news to post a picture of this girl. Women should really be pissed at this girl because when a real rape occurs no one will believe her.

Hey jerk. They won't post pictures or names of the poor defenseless victims. That is the dumb gurls. They only post the names of the suspects - guys. (The real victims!!!)

I wonder if she is going to get married to any of these guys. Does anyone know?

Yeah. Married, Divorced. Married, Divorced. This is a serial slut in the making.

nice guys. nasty talkers all of you!

What a bunch of STUPID people!! Ignurent, bigitted, self-richus peeple.
(The spelling is in your own language,so's you can understand, ya bunch of hillbillies!)
Now, I am a guy, and I can still understand why some young woman would want to drop charges, even if it really DID happen. I mean, have you ever been a woman in the witness stand during a rape trial, or had your name drug thru the mud 'cuz some dumb ape did it to you without your permission, and then you went to the cops, who look at you just like the ape did?
Cripes, she probably looked at her future and decided it wasn't worth the trouble and pain to go thru it all again. Damn! I would, but then I would probably come up with some nefarious scheme to get even.

First I just want to say this story has no merits to it.
Secondly, I do NOT feel sorry for anyone who cries rape when it had never occured.
This story kind of reminds me of the Asope Fables, " The boy who cried wolf."
And for the ones who do get raped, their situations are hardly reported because of things like this.
I feel absolutely NO pitty for this individual, AT ALL !

Did she get laid or not? If she can't pay the KCPD back monetarily, the KCPD should either sue her, or she should agree to go ahead and screw all of the officers that worked on this.

Punishment fits the crime.

Sounds like a dumb sports groupie. Johnson County=she thinks she's too good to date KC guys, well.....LOLOLOLOLOLOL, silly b@tch.

Anne,

I beg to differ. With all due respect, she did do something the guys didn't do. She got into a car with guys she didn't know after all had been drinking. I am a large male who, after 15 years in the military can take care of himself and I wouldn't even get into a car with 2 or 3 guys I didn't know unless I had to. Let alone go to their hotel room.

Something may have happened that was wrong. I don't know. Maybe she wanted to be with one guy and the rest thought it was a free ticket and that was what set it off. Regardless, she owes it to herself to never put herself in that type of situation. Things like this happen and it's never good. And there is a double standard involved. Due to privacy laws, her name is safe and she can retire in peace. Those players had their name splattered all over the press and will carry that with them for a long time.

Go to a hotel room @ 2 AM to party with a bunch of starnge men you've never met before? You need to get some sense. What do you think is going to happen? I hesitate to say that this c*m dumpster deserved to get raped if she's that stupid.

I have a different take on the events. She dropped the charges immediately after speaking to their attorney. That's when she changed her story. I think they made her an offer to drop the charges. Maybe it all really did happen as she originally stated, or maybe she planned it that way from the start or maybe both happened. But whether they raped her or not, I think money made everything go away.

Sex for money. That may have been her original intent. That is the intent of many women these days. If not money then just attention. Did anyone see her dancing on the pole at th Empire Room? I sure it was quite a scene.

I guess that is why they call it the oldest profession in the book. It comes natural for some of these chicks. They are always looking to trade up to the next best thing. I would have to think that this serial slut comment above may have been the only crime that night.

No one deserves to be raped. Perhaps if a few men were raped, comments like the above would be fewer. An examination could tell if indeed she did have intercourse with any of these men. DNA is a good witness. Did she ever say no? Men of the celebrity of these players should know that no means no and that their reputation and future could depend on backing off. They surely could find a woman who says yes. Consentual sex should be easy to find. There are probably women who would want to do them all and hopefully they would all enjoy it. I think the police should release the results of DNA testing. If true that she did have intercourse with them the question comes back to did she say yes or no. If she did say yes, she should admit it and settle the issue. If she said no, then the players should be prosecuted, after all it is a crime. It takes a jury to decide who is telling the truth. Even then I am not sure the issue would be settled.

That is the very reason she was with them due to thier celebrity status. They all enjoyed it up until the time she realized that she had been f*cked & c*ucked, which was about 2 minutes into the cab ride home. At that point the dream of hitting it big time was over. Then it became a rape.

Chucked like an arena football. Who says you can't practice at night? Coach says guys what were you doing at the bar? Practicing coach.

Funny guy chub. The sad part is I kinda agree with you. These women set up the rules & the guys play along. They take these desperate women who are trying to impress there poor family & come up with the grand prize. However, the grand prize is always spoken for and these females are left with nothing but a $10 cab ride all expenses one way paid ride home.

Look Chuby. Women sometimes use thier best assets to get what they desire. So what if it is not real love. At least we get the desired lifestyle we deserve. Men beware, we have an agenda.

She pays restitution only. What about jail? She made those players go through DNA screenings, how intrusive is that? They should lock her a** up.

I know the type. They are in love with you for about 3 hours & then reality sets in. Our "size' is similar to most men despite the rumors. But these mud sharks loe the thought of an a 9" bad boy

THANK YOU Marquis, some girl will be lucky to find you, if you are not already taken.

I appreciate your post Tim, but bottom line is, there is no excuse for rape, for anyone to try to rationalize it with well she should not have gone, she should not have done this or that, that is the kind of thinking that can get you into trouble. Making excuses won't get you off the hook if you (not you personally) if anyone ever ends up in court and tries the excuses they used to give their momma and they worked, the grownup world doesn't work that way, at least not often and it shouldn't.
YES, I AGREE 100 PERCENT, it was a dumb thing to do and she should learn from it, but it is not these guys or any guys who should take advantage of that and try to "teach her a lesson". Remember, if you conduct yourself as a gentleman, you will never have anything to worry about when it comes to women/dating/relationships.

Thomas, my man, thank you, spoken like a true gentleman and a man of honor, but thats not what most guys aspire to they would rather be "the dude" or "the player". But you, Thomas, are a jewel.

All of you who say shame on her cause she had her moment of fun and now she wants to cry rape, well I guess maybe the guys are doing their time too, or they were, they had their moment of fun and now they are having to face the consequences. Nothing is a mistake if you are willing to live with the consequences, thats easy.

Looks like Anne is trying to hook up on this website. Beware men, she sounds like a man hater that will lure you in & then slowly devistate you down to nothing.

I was in the same position 17 years ago.I was raped by my sisters husband.I was intoxicated at the time,but I could remember the details and even drove 70 mile home,leaving my very ill little sister in the hospital.Since this occurred in a different state,the state patrol from that state came an interviewed me.Ultimatly I dropped the charges and decided to go on with my life.I went on to college 4 months after the incident.Had I went ahead and persude the case,I may never of gone on to become a LPN.I still recall the events,esp. since my sister is still married tohim,but I am not going to let it rule my life.I am someone and he is still the same lowlife as he was.So call names all you want,you do not know what is going on in her life.I do not agree with any young woman going to the hotel room of these roughins,but haven't you made mistakes yourself.I hav a 20 yr old and a 17 year old and I pray they never get themselves in that position.

This was no mistake. This was a gamble made by a desperate girl that was looking to cash in on "professional" football players. She lost the gamble. She responded with a rape charge to get even.

First of all let’s just get this straight she is an idiot. These are Arena Football players and at most they make $50,000 a year so if she was trying to extort money she would have been better off hooking up with an older dude from Johnson County and accusing him of rape.

Secondly she has horrible friends, they are the ones who let her leave with these unknowns (and that’s how they will stay, b/c they will never make the NFL we've seen first hand the talent level of this league and it is piss poor D1 football is much more exciting) to head back to their hotel room. What the hell did they think was on the agenda a glass of milk and a game of chess? Its 2:00am in the morning everyone’s drunk and headed to a hotel room. Sounds like a one night stand to me.

Third she is a moron for making the decision herself to go alone to a situation that can only lead to trouble.

I am not justifying the situation I am just pointing out the obvious. ROIDS and Alcohol + dumb Johnson county girl = trouble.

Anne don’t be an idiot, your right this is f'ed up both ways, but she has a brain, and she used that brain to make several poor decisions. Maybe other dumb girls will learn from this. You want equality but what you really need is protection from yourselves.

Yes, the girl obviously made some bad decisions. We don't know WHY she went to the hotel with them. None of us do. How about just assuming that she was impaired by alcohol and that being around these pro football players was exciting to her and that she never imagined that someone in the public eye would ever try to do anything illegal to her? Hey, she's young, and we ALL did dumb stuff when we were young.
And let's assume that the men "thought" she wanted to have sex just because she went to the motel/hotel, and they ALL tried to have sex with her without her consent. Or, what if she liked ONE of the guys and would have had sex with him if he would have tried, but he didn't - and the other FOUR guys forced her? WE DON'T KNOW!
Finally, after a few days of talking with cops, prosecutors, her friends, what if the girl realized that going to court against these guys (IF they did in fact do something) would be just as bad as when they assaulted her? Maybe she just couldn't handle it emotionally? WE DON'T KNOW!
So, don't badger the girl, and don't badger the guys. Unless the girl comes forward and tells US what happened and why she dropped the case - leave it at that.

Always wear a condom. And latex gloves. And shower afterward. If needed, use lava soap. Maybe stay sober. (Bang-a-broad, do-it-yourself kit)

Tits-

You da man, atleast we know your safe

Hello stud,

Why is your sister still married?

Now, I am not sure if any of you have been to the Empire Room, but they have a dance pole that is elevated on the dance floor. These desperate chicks go out there a work it big time. They are in competition with each other to show off thier tatoos on thier backs & how sluty they can dance. The reasons her friends didn't stick up for her, was that they lost the competition for who gets to go home with the big man on campus (The Pro Football Stars).

Well I have heard that the tatoo on the back is considered a bullseye for the men. Let me guess, a gothic symetrical tatoo with colors. It's amazing my friends feel that after a $200 tatoo that they are all the sudden special. They buy clothing just to show it off. Did this girl have a tatoo? I suspect yes.

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