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Thursday, May 03, 2007

Police: Man paid to have pregnant girlfriend's belly punched

Minneapolis police say an 18-year-old punched a 19-year-old pregnant woman in the stomach after her boyfriend, 22, agreed to pay him $200. The baby died a few days later. Both men have been charged with second-degree murder and first-degree assault.

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People never cease to amaze. This is off the charts. And it has happened before I know. Not only was this done to kill the baby (of course some argue if it's a baby yet), but causing the woman to miscarry could have caused damage to her as well. I feel bad, my wife ended up with me when she could have had something like this guy. I'm called selfish for replacing my broke down pickup with a Tahoe, rather than letting her get something bigger. She could have something within months of the baby being born, Tahoe will be paid off. Maybe I should send this article to her and show her what real man would do for her.


I've been lucky. We wanted to have kids shortly after getting married. Well, conceived on the honeymoon. 6-7 weeks later, early term miscarriage. "By accident" (lol) the wife was pregnant again a month later. Things are going well as we are about to enter the third trimester. So we have been lucky. I know of sooo many couples that either just can't have kids that want them so badly, or it takes them years after years of trying. Then you get this kinda stuff that happens on a daily basis it seems. It is enough to make the most optimistic person feel blue.

These dudes need to be punched in the nads repeatedly until they pop... which may just come to pass in prison... I think they'll get the same respect as child molesters...

T...he'll get something popped ;)


And sorry for my long post, folks. The whole car debate has been a month long issue and I tend to get a little off track when it gets in my head!

Second degree? This is first because of the pre-meditation, the hiring of a 'hit' man. These 2 are scum.

Golfer, yeah I would say it's first as well due to the planning. The fact it was intentional period should warrant that. I have a feeling there will be some debate on the 2nd degree charge though...it's the whole "is it a baby yet" battle.

onetime: I know it makes me sick to hear of things like this too, especially knowing people that would give anything to have a baby., Stories like this, makes me sick

The_Golfer--I hope you're right. It's bad enough knowing that someone would even try to find someone to do something like this, whats even worse, is there IS someone that will do it!

HOMICIDE BASED ON KILLING OF UNBORN CHILD
Heres a little something on the subject

http://www.vanderbilt.edu/SFL/homicide_killing_unborn_child.htm

See now here is a perfect example where vigilante justice would bode well ...

I KNOW - not in the big picture is vigilante justice something we can let run rampant - but these two?.....

This is absolutely first degree murder - I agree completely

The people who are going to say "If he'd paid for an abortion it would have been legal" need to remember whose consent is necessary for an abortion to be performed.

Obviously these two deserve 1st Degree Murder charges. The baby was beyond the viable fetus date. At about 2 lbs when born this baby would have been a micro-preemie, but still could have survived. The woman would have been roughly 27 weeks I am guessing by the size of the baby. Viability starts at about 24 weeks. So the question of whether the "baby" was a person is invalid. The baby survived outside of the womb for 9 days before being removed from life support due to the injuries sustained in the attack.

SO SAD.
My heart goes out to this woman.

They will probably be able to plea down to manslaughter, they will serve less time for this than they would for being a debtor.
They will probably serve less than 7 years versus very possibly be faced with serving an indefinite sentince once becoming a debtor with a principal and interest so ridiculous that they would NEVER be able to get out from underneath it.

How is this not premeditated first degree murder? These guys are going to get off so easy. It breaks my heart to think of that innocent baby. What a bunch of thugs.

They need to charge them BOTH with conspiracy + premeditated 1st degree murder = a hanging... I don't care if it was a 2 month pregnancy, it's still a baby...

I almost feel like the kid may of been lucky. Think about it this was his dad. You tell me what type of life this poor being would of had.

If you believe in God then you have to think he would of protected the baby from pain and who knows maybe gave the baby a second chance with a real parents.

Of course that’s just how I rationalize this terrible story. There is nothing eviler than man.

The prosecutor's office probably didn't file First Degree Murder charges because they knew it would be too easy for the defense attorney to find jurors who believed this not to be a baby -- therefore, the prosecutor is probably hoping these two guys will cop a plea out of court.

These two idiots are embarrassing as hell to me as a Black man. Every time I turn around theres a Black person doing some dumb ass crap. I'm so sick of these idiots making my race look like neanderthals, as if we are sub human. I'm so sick of all of these losers it makes my skin crawl anytime I hear of this kind of ignorant crap. I know theres ignorance in every race, but since I'm Black, it really hurts to see so many of us acting like assholes. I wish they could be identified as their own race, perhaps the moron race? That way us regular Black folks can sit back and shake our heads along with everyone else in the world.

Let's get all the details on this. Could it be possible The Girl told the Guy that she was on birth control and wouldn't become pregnant? Surprise Surprise Surprise.

Lance,
Don't let it get ya down. Every time I watch the national news I get embarrassed to be a white man. Black people got a long old ways to go to catch up with us in the outrages against humanity department.

Malcolm,
If so would that make it right? And birth control is not 100%

Lance,
Your race doesn't make me think your neanderthals. Race means nothing to me, it's what and how you are as a person that matters. Not the color of your skin. I'm white and my bestman when I got married was a Black man. He was better dressed than me also. And has been a very good friend of mine for close to 10 years.
There are good ones and bad ones that crosses all races.

Doc in now way does it make it right. What I'm saying is we don't have all the details in this case. Just a matter of public opinion.

What amazes me is that this ever happened and the comments' he's a good guy'...yeah.. whatever.

This makes me so sick. I am pregnant right now, and the dad is not in the picture and did try to send some girls to jump me cuz he didnt want me to have the baby. Fortunately for me my step dad came into the picture with a loaded shot gun lol before anyone could lay a hand on me. but I am 27 weeks pregnant, about what she was, and if someone did that to me I would be devestated. I can feel him move, he has a personality already, he hides when people wanna touch my stomach and kicks when they take his heartbeat cuz its cold. And hes stubborn, he wont move when i try to move him like damn it this is my space! He's my lil man already, I can't say that I wouldnt find some way to kill the son of a bitch myself.

What does it matter if she said she was on a birth control?!!! That gives him the right to have her baby killed and put her through that trauma? NO! It was a cop out.

Sarah,
Your lucky to have that stepdad who did defend you. How many women don't?
There are good men out there who want a family, you just made a bad choice with who you made this baby with.

Let me get this straight.......someone causes the death of a fetus and it is illegal. Let the mother consent (abortion) and it is OK. I used to have a problem with this until scott (no caps) pointed out there is a "viable fetus date". I just can't argue with consistency

Sarah maybe your parents should have taught you to abstain instead of living an ultra liberal entitlement mindset. It tkaes 2 to make a child and it's NOT the male's fault it is equally 50/50.
For some reason the men are assesed with 100% responsibility and the women woth none.
YOU CHOSE to get pregnant, if the to be father does not want the chikd then the law should require you to sing a self sustaining waiver. You BOTH should have thought about that BEFORE screwing without protection. You will get a free ride now, whatever you want. You will receive the EIC, CTCC, as well as being eleigble for numerous single mom only college scholarships. What you should do is tell the DCSE that he makes $70,000 a year, the family court will award you a presumtive child support award and you are set for at least 23 years.

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