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I am curious how they are going to prove this, but holy cow, what a creeeeep.

This is wrong, not let me have some fun with it.

At least not getting it on the streets and bringing who knows what diseases home.

Of course she'll have no problem asking for alimony, which really is nothing more than prostitution. So why does a wife not have sex with ehr husband. The minute she doesn't get her way all she has to do is filew with the divorce court and she will be rewarded. Granted drugging her is creepy and wrong but charging him with rape and sodomy is like charging him with desertion and neglect for not spending whatever she demands at payday.

Proving all this is going to be a challange....with a 25 year sentence in the balance for him.

Under new KS law, marriage is a legitimate defense against the charges of rape, child molestation and child pornography...really it is. I am surprised the lawyer didn't throw that in, but maybe it happened before Septmember 2006 when the new law kicked in.

NoMore.....You pay for the sex during marriage while you are married. Alimony is really severence pay. Anyway, good luck collecting alimony from a prison inmate.

I'm curious as to why she still faked passed out after she found out his intentions with her. How do you fake passed out while being raped and/or sodomized?? He is a major creep, and deserves to spend time in prison and find out what it is like.

***It should also be punishing to know that he is soooo bad that she is ABLE to fake passed out the entire time he is getting his rocks off..... LOL

You know, if the guy wanted to have sex with a woman who showed no reaction whatsoever—no matter what you did—then there's this girl I knew in college ...

:-)

On a more serious note, I don't care if you're married or not -- "NO" means "NO." Period.

I understand why Kansas may have enacted a law that says otherwise (messy divorce were one side accuses the other, etc.), but that doesn't make it any less stupid or wrong.

:-), From your own observation, did it ever occur to you that maybe she is simply lying. Then, you say he should be in jail for life....on what charges?? Being a creep in your eyes? Opt out of jury duty if you are ever called.

Ken - I NEVER said he should be there for life, you may want to reread the comment. IF he did, in fact, drug and rape her, he should spend some time in prison finding out what it is about. That is a given.

Mark is right -- "no means no". Doesn't matter that you are married. It is no one's "duty". If a person has problems having sex with their marriage parter, they need counseling or divorce. But not rape.

However, of course it crossed my mind she may be lying. EVERYONE could be lying about charges. I was going with the articles' statement that sufficient evidence existed to pursue the case.

And if she is lying - then SHE should spend time for false accusations, and risk herself finding out what her allegations are truely about.

"On a more serious note, I don't care if you're married or not -- "NO" means "NO." Period." --MarkD

Brilliant. Are you running for public office?

Cant say "NO" when your passed out. But dont worry Mark the law includes any sex under the influence of intoxicants (or loss of consciousness) that CAN be called rape...at her descretion of course. Believe me, the women's lobby was there in full force out-lobbying your side of it....which didn't take much because you have no represention as a man.

:-), I stand corrected, you did not say LIFE. But if he is innocent, then he deserves no jail. If he is guilty, I think 25 years is a little harsh, but its the law now.

And I dont support anyone drugging someone and having sex with them while unconscious. I am simply saying the law is screwy and very broadly defined. Thus, its a hair trigger to make serious charges against someone.

"And I dont support anyone drugging someone and having sex with them while unconscious. I am simply saying the law is screwy and very broadly defined. Thus, its a hair trigger to make serious charges against someone." Posted by: KenLewis

Unfortunately, such is the state of the law. Most of our laws are screwy, and it's very hard to find TRUE justice in most cases, and to find many of the laws just and reasonable. I suppose that you are correct, it would be in no ones best interest for me to be on jury duty. Because I believe in true justice, I may be too harsh or too lacks depending on how ridiculous the charges are, and how sever the crime is.

the first thing I thought when I read this was why doesn't the wife want to have sex with her husband? It does sound a little suspicious to me but I don't see how either side could prove the other was lying and if she was going to go to the trouble of faking being passed out why didn't she record it or do anything

she faked passing out, and faked being unaware she was having SEX...she didn't fight, say no, just had sex...with her husband...


she wouldn't be related to that judge that thinks pants are worth $54 million??


Actually Ken, the court could very well mandate alimony eventhough he is in jail and when he doesn't pay, they can add additional charges for comtempt. Happens all the time. You see, the courts and government CAN squeeze blood from a turnip and can get what you do not have. You pay or go to jail, it truly is defined as debtor's prison like back in old England but the majority of society deny it exists.

Actually a spouse DOES have a duty to have sex, just as a spouse (typically the man) has an obligation to provide for the household. A wife not having sex is okay but when a man doesn't provide at the level the wife WANTS, he is a deadbeat?
Sorry that is wrong.

My guess she has had a headache every night for the last 5 years. He just needed a way to release.

Cant say "NO" when your passed out. But dont worry Mark the law includes any sex under the influence of intoxicants (or loss of consciousness) that CAN be called rape...at her descretion of course.

And you have a problem with that, or am I missing something here?


Believe me, the women's lobby was there in full force out-lobbying your side of it.... which didn't take much because you have no represention as a man.

Oh sweet Jesus ...

The law was probably written primarily by men, is enforced primarily by men, tried primarily by men, and/or adjudicated primarily by men.

So please spare me the whole "no representation as a man" line.

he's a somnophiliac

Actually a spouse DOES have a duty to have sex, just as a spouse (typically the man) has an obligation to provide for the household. A wife not having sex is okay but when a man doesn't provide at the level the wife WANTS, he is a deadbeat?
Sorry that is wrong. NoMoreMrNiceGuy

I disagree about calling it "DUTY". Sex should be part of a real relationship, but so does the willingness to provide for your family. And BOTH parties should be responsible for BOTH parts. Didn't say she was right for not wanting to have sex. But just as in most crimes, there were other options for him besides taking advantage of her unconsiousness. Like divorce, finding someone else, or a bottle of lotion???? I DO NOT agree that it's ok to rape someone just because they should be willing to have sex with you. HOWEVER, IT SHOULD BE OK TO FIND SOMEONE ELSE TO HAVE SEX WITH SHOULD YOUR PARTNER NOT BE WILLING TO GIVE IT UP FOR A SET PERIOD OF TIME OF....LET'S SAY, 1 MONTH??? And then, if SHE files for divorce, SHE should NOT recv any alimony for it.

I read somewhere that (can't remember the state) couples were once obligated to oblige each other at a rate based on the husband's career (less if you were a sailer and out to sea most of the time, more if you worked locally). There were cases where both women and men went to court for more nooky (finally a valid use of our justice system!).

Personally, I think we should amend the Constitution with some sort of "Giving up the booty" statute that women must follow. No more holding out, ladies!

i don't get what was so wrong. i think it is a great idea.. ;) I wonder if my wife would like it.

Hmmmm. And I guess if she had busted him surfing porn and masturbating, she couldn't have charged him with anything. BUT, it sounds to me like this uptight, hands-off, ultra-conservative may have run his name through the mud to ensure she still could have drained him of every penny.

Sounds like she was a very bitter person. If she was so unhappy in the marriage that she wanted no part of sex, they should have divorced when that lightbulb illuminated itself over her head....

Granted, he was wrong to drug her, but she was withholding marital relations. Either way, he was going to get screwed. If he went to a mistress, the wife screws him. He can't get it from the wife, so he tries something sneaky to get it from the one who is supposed to be his life-long lover, and he's more screwed. Bad deal all the way around. Shame on him for being an idiot with drugging her, if he did it. But shame on her for withholding relations and not just asking for a divorce, long before this occurred, so they might both move on.

He should have surfed the net for locals who wanted the same thing and just been discrete. Instead, she's getting the goldmine and he's going to get many a shafts... while in gen-pop.

She should be prosecuted for violating her marriage vows.. the end.

Typical vows by uncreative people and various churches/religions:
To have and to hold, from this day forward, for better, for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in health, to love and to cherish, 'till death do us part

Where does it say "to screw whenever you ask?"

If in fact the vows (words only) were legally enforcable, then "to love and to cherish" were probably broken by this guy.

I cannot find any indication in Kansas law that either man or woman owes the other any sex of any kind, or that it is ok to have non-consensual sex with your spouse. That is Non-Consensual, aka rape. The victim may not be able to say no.
Now, the time when the wife caught him she could have said no, and that time was not rape. But all of the other times were times she was not able to agree or disagree, and may have disagreed beforehand.

So, legally speaking, this guys is a rapist.

People with kink desires for unconscious partners would do well to get a signed consent form ahead of time to protect themselves. I mean, come on, it's not going to ruin "the mood" when she's knocked out later on.
People with kink desires for unconscious partners that have not agreed to sex ahead of time should be taken out back and shot the moment they act on them because we don't need that turd floating around in the genepool.

Where does it say she withheld marital relations? This is about his bad acts.

Rape is about power, not sex.

I'm with "Breaking vows?" here. If he wants a wife who will have sex whenever he wants and this woman doesn't want that, then he ought to have asked for a divorce. But it's not about intimacy. Raping an unconscious woman is about control and power, not about sex and intimacy.

You men who think the wife should have been "putting out" for her husband--would you support her side if she'd been drugging her husband regularly for any purpose? Even just to have a couple hours of peace and quiet? You know you wouldn't.

There is a disturbingly large number of men on this thread who not only see nothing wrong with drugging and raping an unconscious woman but actually intimate they think they'd do it themselves if they had the need/opportunity. In addition, its very interesting that the assumption is that women get alimony after divorce. The majority of the money owed is in child support. both parents owe the children they've brought into the world support regardless of the marital state of the parents in question. Prison should not, and will not, alter this man's duty to support his children. Sad but true. But I suppose the "family values" crowd represented in these disgusting comments about how marriage is nothing more than legalized prostitution in which women exchange sex for money also fail to understand that when people have children they are responsible for paying for them. What a sick view of marriage and adult relations these guys have.

aimai

I, too, am horrified by all the commenters who are perfectly willing to castigate the wife for not being in the mood often enough (that ice queen was asking for it!), but can't muster up enough outrage to condemn drugging and raping a woman.

I don't mean that everyone ought to assume Padgett is guilty. But would it hurt so much to quit bitching about alimony for a second and acknowledge that sexual assault is a pretty lousy thing to do?

P. S. Marvin? It's from the Talmud, and it's called "onah". Those stuffy old rabbis 1800 years ago recognized a woman's right to have sex on her own terms, an insight that apparently eludes many people today...

First of all: if the story's true, it is indeed rape, and thus one of the most horrible things you can do.

plus, I find some things so sad:
1. What a lonely life Padgett must have led (given the charges are true), his marriage filled with a lie, killing any trust there might've been. I wish him a good therapist, sorting out his weird mind.
2. Reading all those "why not?"-comments I wonder if anyone could really think this kind of behavior was enjoyable? I mean, apart from the fact that you're acting morally disgusting, wouldn't you feel like jerking off?! What a shallow and boring life you guys must have!

Come on you guys from Kansas. You all know that sex is only for procreation, right?

Marital rape is just as illegal as non-marital rape. An unconscious woman cannot give consent, and thus any sex with her is considered rape under the law.

If he's found guilty, this appalling excuse for a human being deserves whatever sentence he's given. And I hope his wife finds a good therapist. She'll need it.

Marital rape is just as illegal as non-marital rape. An unconscious woman cannot give consent, and thus any sex with her is considered rape under the law.

If he's found guilty, this appalling excuse for a human being deserves whatever sentence he's given. And I hope his wife finds a good therapist. She'll need it.

Jesus Christ, how would you like being drugged and raped, then find out?

And since when is sex a duty? Last time I checked, it was an optional thing for joint pleasure. So sue her, she didn't want to sleep with her husband for whatever reason. Being married does NOT mean it's a sex-fest all the time, or that just being married means she wants him. Maybe at one time or another, she did. But she clearly hasn't and if he's capable of this monstrosity, who knows what else he's done to her, or how he acts. Don't judge based on your archetypal ideas of how a man and woman in marriage should act. Maybe your parents had sex all the time, maybe you do, but I can tell you, mine sure as hell don't, and since the divorce rate in this country is about %50, I'm guessing at least half of America doesn't either.

Simple facts here: woman alledges husband rapes her, they go to court.

He deserves more than 25 years. Do you KNOW how devastating rape/sexual abuse can be? She deserves to know he's being punished.

Try being a woman, and then view this situation. Try being HER. Because none of us really know the truth.

OK bring on the bullheaded and ridiculous arguments to my comment.

I'm sick to frickin' death of men. They cause more problems than they solve. The few good one DO NOT make up for the 97% bad ones.

I really want a world with no more men.

Sex is a duty?????????? You're obviously doing it wrong, it's supposed to be fun, ie: consensual and enjoyable for both parties. no means no, not being able to refuse does not mean yes! Getting married because you want to spend your life with someone does not mean that you are in the mood for sex with that person anytime they are between "I do" and the end!

Anyone who thinks this behaviour is acceptable is condoning rape. I wonder how you would feel if it was your sister, or your daughter put in this position.

This woman has NOTHING to gain by lying - no amount of money from a divorce is worth the impact this will have on her life. If she really were doing it for the money, why wouldn't she accuse him of something she could prove much more easily?

I think that this woman must have been extremely brave to have confronted her husband, to have pretended to have been drugged to confirm it was true, and to have testified against her own husband. She has nothing to gain but control over her own body, which she would have had anyway if he hadn't been drugging her to rape her. This is HIS FAULT and he is supported by people who still seem to think a woman is property and rape isn't a crime.

OH so when i post offensive things, they get deleted? who moderates this, a MAN? what about people saying rape's ok?

GREATTTT JOB.

wow....so many men are responsible for crimes against women; they are american terrorists!!! Killing women and children, abusing women and children...it is time for decent men (clearly not the ignorant - as proven in this blog) to speak out against other men who commit these crimes!!!! Real men don't control others, nor do they feel the need. They are respectful (again, unlike bloggers demonstrated here).

Wow I am seriously appalled and offended by these comments. As a woman in a serious committed relationship, albiet not marriage, the opinions of some of the men in this thread (she's bitter? God forbid she not want to have sex whenever he felt necessary. I guess all women should get used to such practices so all men are happy and content) yet again portray how women are still considered property who should always be willing to put out as a "duty" for men.

I pity your significant others. If you feel this way, god knows how you treat them. Again another example of how America has not truly changed after the 20th century.

"Actually a spouse DOES have a duty to have sex, just as a spouse (typically the man) has an obligation to provide for the household. A wife not having sex is okay but when a man doesn't provide at the level the wife WANTS, he is a deadbeat?
Sorry that is wrong."

...if you have a wife (which I pray no woman in her right mind would ever degrade herself to be), I really, genuinely pity her. What you're describing sounds like no more than long-term, exclusive prostitution of both parties.

Sex is not a woman's duty, for the love of zed. Nor is it a man's duty to "provide for the household", unless everyone else in it is disabled or something. It's an equal partnership...or it's supposed to be. Everyone should do their fair share of contributing to the household, and sex should be a joy and a pleasure. The way you put it, it should be on the "Honey-Do" list between taking the trash out and cleaning the garage.


Pathetic, frankly.

ugh men are pigs. i can't believe some of these comments. you guys here disgust me.

Maybe she refused to have sex with her husband because he is a douche, or just because she wasn’t in the mood.

No one should be obligated/forced to have sex they do not want; that is what rape is. Further, the individual decides for her/himself whether or not she/he wants sex. If one partner does not want sex, the other person is required to back off. Sex requires consent, without it, it ceases to be sex, and is rape.

Challenging concept for some, I know. Of course so is that whole “what kind of person wants to have sex with someone who doesn’t want it with them” concept. Or the whole “women are human beings with bodily integrity” concept. Boggles the feeble mind, don’t it?

Honestly, life is too short to have bad sex, which is why women sometimes say no to situations they suspect will be less than satisfying for them. And men who penetrate unwilling or unconscious women/children/men are RAPISTS. End of story.

Funny as hell.

I'll just bet she was 'asleep'.

Maybe he's a necrophiliac...and likes to have sex with lifeless bodies? It IS a possibility however, that she was conscious but immobilized and maybe couldn't move or speak while it was happening?
As far as her lying, that's a pretty WILD story to make up, don't you think? So, either is possible....ONE of those two if not both has some SERIOUS problems. crazy story.

oh nevermind didnt read the whole article.

Maybe his penis was so short she could not feel it. Was this the same guy that got caught in the dog kennel in Bonner springs spanking his monkey?

Way to go Weldon, you are a crrreeeeppp.

Maybe his penis was so short she could not feel it. Was this the same guy that got caught in the dog kennel in Bonner springs spanking his monkey?

Way to go Weldon, you are a crrreeeeppp.

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