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Thursday, August 09, 2007

Open Thread ... Thursday

Thread Thanks again for spending a little time today on the Open Thread. This is the blog's spot for off-topic discussion, socializing and what-have-you. And of course, if you've seen an interesting story elsewhere, feel free to post a link below.

Please sign your comments, and please avoid profanity, as well as racially or sexually abusive comments. I read the OT, but it's usually faster to email me at jhart@kcstar.com.

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GOLD

Morning Ssgt, guess you get the fanfare today.

Good mornig KC, another hot one today. Hope everyone that can stays cool. I will be thinking about those folks that have to work outdoors, might even take them a cool drink from time to time if possilbe.

Morning Ssgt.

How about thinkin about the folks who work in front of a hot fire? Outside is rather nice then.

We had a situation yesterday, one of our employee usually picks up the empty soda cans from folks here in the office. Well his supervisor decided he was stealing from the government because they have places to put the cans in every break room. So the supervisor turns this guy in to upper management and the individual was reprimanded for gathering these cans from individuals that would have just thrown them in the trash anyway.

He did the pick up before and after working hours, so no company time was used, and as I stated the people he got the cans from were the ones who didn't put them in recycle anyway. By the way the employee doing the reclcling is an excellent employee, so they weren't trying to get him because he was a screw up. His supervisor is just that petty and so is the upper management involved..

I recycle my aluminum cans and take them in and make $$ of them does that mean I'm stealing from the government also?

Market prices for aluminum range from $350 to $800/ton from local recycling centers,

I make about $35 for 100# of crush cans about 6 lawn bags full or couple 1000 cans.

Jeez, talk about a cheap boss, I wouldn't work for the idiot.

Morning all!!

So the recycling is the government's? We have bins to recycle here, but I take mine home and recycle(make $$) myself. That boss is jealous because he didn't do it first. Moron.

JDog, did you get my question about do you play in the league from where you work?

Being that he is a good employee, you would have thought the supervisor could have just said something to him directly without involving upper management. Is there possibly something else going on that has nothing to do with cans/recycling at all?

Yeah Kat, you are right. It does kind of sound like this manager has it out for the model employee. Maybe this person's name is/was being bantered for a position above this current manager and this person wanted it. Best way to get it is to destroy your competition.....

Or it is time for the evaluation and a raise or the amount of it is a factor.

The_Golfer
Sounds like you do what I do with your cans, make money from it. Most people just throw them out. In some states you pay a deposit on them like oregon 10¢ a can, but they have machines at each store where you just pop them in and get your money inside the store, same for plastic 2-Liter bottles. Here in the Midwest the state has centers where they want you to take them so they can make the money from it. I take mine to Merriam Ln. and 635 and make cash, they pay for all kinds of stuff not just aluminum.

Good morning everyone. Ssgt, since when are aluminum cans part of the government property? Aren't they considered private enterprise property? Why would anyone be so petty, and is this person following the employee around for a reason. I think Kat is right on target with this one.

I forgot to mention that I work for a federal agency, the cans that go into the recycle bins in the break room are sold to supplement the employee rec fund. The thing is the Goodwill folks that do our trash do not recycle them they just throw them out. But most of the cans he was picking up were coming from individuals. But that is why our facilicity folks counseled him on stealing from the rec fund.

I just found out that the manager was removed last Friday for cause. It seems it was a case of racisum the forced his removal. So I guess what goes around, comes around. But it is good for the agency that this idiot was removed.

Doc - Trying to find a place that will pay for 1/2 liter water bottles. Then I could make sure REAL $$.

The_Golfer,
Are they Glass or Plastic. I think that place on Merriam Dr and 635 old Renyolds plant takes plastic. I know they take Glass, Brass, Aluminum. They have a sign on just what they will pay for.
This is the place give them a call and see what they have to say.

OBN Recycling INC.
4203 Merriam Dr.
913-831-1541

Good Morning all.
Woke up with a wheelbarrel full of water and no electricity.
I went to bed at 10:30 last night and my none digital clock stopped at 11:00. So, my freezers and refrigerators and A/C was off all night. Thank god the temperature had dropped.
I called aquila and told their auto answer service my electricity was off. They said they would send somebody out..
I got a call 2 minutes later and they were asking me if I was sure that my electricity was off... what kinda question is that.
They said they had already fixed the problems in my area.. I told them they missed one... What an idiot.

Golfer,
I do not play in any work related league. I do play in the KC Cup matches for Hillcrest; usually alternating shot.

Do you want to pursue the Kelsey tounament?

I posted yesterday or the day before that the best way to converse with me (right now) is via my email; (things are really busy at work, so I'm not in CSKC as much as in the past.

k, I have the e-mail that James sent, will be in touch shortly about the Kelsey tourney. Trying to get 2 others.

Interesting story from Seattle - I have never heard of this before, sorry I have forgotten how to post links:

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/jamieson/326927_robert09.html

LOL Searching... what do they expect you to do, stick a finger in a light socket just to make sure?

Oh, hang ong.... BBBZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZPPPP Oh, GEEZEE G---- D------!!!@#$@#$@# Man that hurt.. Ouch... (back to phone), ya, sorry guys it's really on. Sorry for buggin ya.

LOL

Morning, everybody. I have it on good authority that today will be excellent ...

Hey jp, in light of your house buying experience, I promised you a quote from a book I've been reading, and here it is. Note that I do not mean to be offensive to anyone! The book is in the context of the Spanish civil war, and I found it amusing:

"Marriage, Army, Church and Banking - the four horses of the Apocolypse." - Carlo Ruiz Zafon (from the book Shadow of the Wind)

I know I am might end up with a reaction for the following statement.. but as a woman, I find that I get asked a lot of idiot questions like that. The water company was supposed to replace my meter and valve because the other one is so rusted that when you run your hand on it rust and chunks of eatem metal fall of in your hand. When I called after 6mths and they still hadnt done it.. he asks me rust.. are you sure its not dirt..
I would never had been asked these idiot questions if I was a guy!

Searching - don't bet on it. They are trying to avoid work as much as possible. Had it happen to me and I am male.

Morning all...

Golfer, how much rain did you get last night? We had an additional 4/10th's, which is so badly needed!

great sleeping weather last night...too bad my front porch flooded and there is mulch everywhere. I am kind of grossed out because there was dog poo in that mulch but now its nowhere to be found.

Patty - In most cases if a cop that is pulled over shows their badge, the 2 cops talk for a bit and then the offending cop is sent on their way. Happens in KC all the time. Got too many cops living around me that use this regularly.

Yep, my dad was in the Sheriff's Reserve and took advantage of that system. He kept his driver's license in a leather wallet that also displayed his badge, and voila, never got a ticket. However, I've never heard of any police force using stickers of different colors on your bumper to signify your status.

MORNING ALL

Funny, Patty! And there's truth in it!

I'll admit you're right, searching. My girlfriend gets the run-around more than I do, partially because I've usually done my homework on a subject before I call (she just doesn't have time since she has a real job), but partly because of the reasons you listed.

Of course most of the time I don't give them a chance, I just go through the whole thing start to finish and then cut them off when they start asking questions that lead down a dirt road.

Tam - probably about the same, no rain gauge. Rained hard and wind blew for a short time, then I fell asleep and slept like a baby.

Something about rain... always makes a person sleep better. The wind was terrible for a short time though. I could do without that.

I remeber as a kid at Grandma's, metal roof, and the rain pelting down. OK as long as no hail, then it got REAL noisy. With the constant, steady sound, just lolled you to sleep. More restful, less stressful, kind of like last night, but no metal roof.

All of you good sleepers must not have dogs lol. One of mine has the Indian name "Barks at Thunder".

morning Doc.

morning Kat,

what king of idiot puts his gun on the counter during a robbery to count the money? Did he think the clerk short changed him?

rhonda, good name for a dog. My name for a dog I had was "Pees when doorbell rings".

rhonda - got dogs, he has just learned that we just tell him to shut up and get still. He will just lay outside my room and relax.

Thankfully my dog gets scared and puts his head under the bed then tries to lay as still and quiet as possible until things pass...

'Redneck Games' end in raucous arrests

These competitors forgo the shotput for the "Mattress Chuck" -- where teams of two slam a 12-pack of beer, get in a pickup truck and start driving, then climb into the bed and throw the mattress as far as possible.

And if you aren't planning on heading to Beijing for the next Olympic Games, there's always the ugly "butt-crack contest."

By the time the latest event ended Sunday, more than 54 arrests and citations had been issued on charges ranging from public intoxication to speeding, according to the Henderson County Sheriff's Department.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/08/08/redneck.games.ap/index.html

I'm so ashamed of my fellow white folks after reading this! They make us all look bad. Now the cops will be racially profiling me and pulling me over to check for mattresses.

(For the humor-challenged, this is supposed to be sarcastic ... especially considering some of the racial charge remarks posted regarding the cop shootings.)

Morning oldman,
I would think someone who didn't want the money that bad, if I was the clerk I'd throw the money at him and grab the gun.

Doc: Just like in the rap videos! They're always throwing money in the air.

Doc...

I read the article, stated that the robber put down the shotgun to count the money, the clerk grabbed the shotgun & the robber fled...

Later, the robber returned to get the shotgun from the clerk..

Obviously, this guy's gonna show up on Worlds Dumbest Criminals, but isn't the idea to take the money & run? Why come back for a loaded shotgun, he didn't think the clerk would use it?? Did he think the clerk was as dumb as he???

Morning Doc, Kat, Oldman
I save my aluminum cans, I have a church not to far from my house that takes them so I usually just drop them off there. i don't make any money from it but that's ok.

Doc: I agree but when I grabbed the gun I would shoot him in the leg so he couldn't go to far.

I'm with you, kayceewolf, it's really getting ugly over on that thread.

On a related note, we're told we will never hear from Ni again. That really hurts my feelings, considering all the great advice we gave her yesterday.

Morning Heather...

I seldom have aluminum cans as I don't drink soda and prefer my beer in glass (even if it's O'Douls)...

Due my diligence with recycling & separate all my trash & put it out so Deffenbaugh can charge me to pick it up & make money off of it...

Why is Ni going away?

Morning Heather,
Long time no see, how are you today, and how's the bundle of sunshine?

I would of shot him also what an idiot, at least the guy got busted without hurting anyone.

Doc, and Oldman: I wonder when Aqua will make an appearance

She was offended by the racist comments on the shooting thread.

What thread is getting ugly? Where is NI going? I feel so out of the loop...

G,
Good news.
Dog poop = biodegrable.

Just wear gloves...lol

Heather, how are things going now that you’ve had your first few days back at work?

heather...

Dunno...he should show up soon, although he'd been feeling low lately, won't speculate on why. Aqua is a good person, a long time friend, hate seeing him depressed.

Why I've know Aqua since this thread was just off the spindle!

She is doing great she is almost 6 weeks old now. She is getting so chubby. I just love being a new mom. She is such a good baby, she hardly ever cries or anything.

hello again Kat

Kat going back to work has actually been just fine, the baby is staying with my mom so I know she is in good hands. It is also enjoyable to have an adult conversation again.

Aqua, likes to make a surprise appearence after peeking in for awhile, he always waits for just the right moment to pounce.

Morning Oldman!

What other thread? Am I missing something? Is it the one about the 5 gentlemen arrested and federally charged? If it is, planning on staying away because I felt it would go straight to racial overtones. One of those gut feelings.

Doc maybe if Oldman gets out the bear costume Aqua will show up lol

Heather, you’re really lucky to have family nearby to help out like that.

haha, heather,
Oldman had to get a new one as aqua wore out the 1st outfit, this one is made out of kevlar, more durable.

Yeah Kat I really lucked out my moms job works out so I can pick up the baby before she goes in so it works out perfectly. Have you had anymore job interviews lately?

Heather, I've had a few. for the time being I'll just play houswife.

hmmmmm, kat...

can I play househusband?

Shoot oldman, I settle for playing the kid in school again, at least then I wasn't so tired after school was out.

Golfer, you think there's a thread about some "gentlemen"? I guess I missed that one.

James, throwing money in the air is known as "making it rain"

Jdog, I am aware its biodegradable, but I am grossed out it has been watered down and dissolved over my whole front porch...guess I need to keep my shoes on when going out for the mail. I am debating whether to warn my roomate or not...haha

rhonda - trying to stay politically correct.

Heather, if you're ever faced with that situation, shoot to kill.

Rhonda, why did Ni decide not to come back? I saw her getting pretty upset in another thread about police chases... but that's just SOP for blogs (disagreement)

OK, 99% of the bridges in this country are built this way.

Bridge design issue

Doc I would love just to get a full nights sleep lol

jp - think she thought and to some point I agree after reading many of the comments, that bloggers were saying it was only a black issue and it is not. The racism and bigotry of some just flows.

Yeah, I went back and read what she wrote. It's sad, because she brought alot to discussions.

For those of you who haven't been over there, here's her comment:

THIS USED TO A BLOG WHERE INTELLIGENT PEOPLE COULD COME TO DISCUSS THEIR DIFFERENCES OF OPINIONS. IT HAS BEEN PROVEN TIME AND TIME AGAIN THAT MEMBERS OF ALL RACES COMMIT CRIME. YET EACH DAY I COME ON HERE I HAVE TO ENDURE THE TIRELESS RANTS OF A COUPLE OF RACIST BIGOTS TRYING TO STEREOTYPE AN ENTIRE RACE BECAUSE OF THE IGNORANCE OF A FEW. THEREFORE THIS WILL BE MY FINAL POST TO CSKC. MY STOMACH CANNOT STAND ANYMORE OF THESE TYPES OF COMMENTS.

MAY GOD BLESS YOU ALL.


Posted by: Ni | Thursday, August 09, 2007 at 08:39 AM

I don't really care who posts here and who doesn't. But when people make big announcements about leaving it sounds to me a little bit like "I'm going to take my toys and go home!" Just a little childish.

Heather, you will get a good night’s sleep again. Don’t lose hope!

Good Morning Doc, Kat, Heather and Oldman.

Oldman, thank you for the kind words. Things are getting better all the time.

I'm thinking Heather would like to try on the Kevlar bear costume.

Kat, do you wear a June Cleaver outfit while playing housewife?

agreed, rhonda.

I've got a similar situation we're dealing with in another group I belong to.

one of our members made a racial statement against another member. one of our really good, active members overheard it and threatened to quit if we don't "do something".

Without getting into much detail, there's not a whole lot we can "do about it", except try to keep him on a short leash.

It's sad that good people threaten to quit because of a few morons. There are a few morons in any group of people. What are you going to do? Turn the whole thing over to them so they can run it?

Morning aqua,
I like to put on the Ward Cleaver outfit every now and then.

Yes Aqua, pearls and apron. The whole nine yards

Heather, if you want I'll lock aqua up for the night so you can get a good nights sleep.

ahhh nothing like coming into work late. Lots of reading to catch up on.

This has to be the first time the bed of my pickup has been at least 90% full of water. Didn't think it rained THAT much.

I'm with you jp. I think it's important to "call" them on it and not let comments like that go unchallenged. Other than that, just ignore them (or let James handle it...he does pay attention.)

We immediately put people like the individual I referred to on "moderated status".

I am a moderator on the blog he is on, and either I or the other moderator must approve everything he posts before it shows up.

That's probably a bit much to ask of James due to the heavy volume on this blog though. But ya, he does a pretty good job of keeping a lid on it.

Good Morning CSKC

Onetime, if it did. You must have a gutter draining in to it. My rain gauge says 1/4" from this mornings rain.

Doc,

I think aqua's been locked up enough...

time to let him roam free for awhile. In fact, I've told the smite monster to send the kevlar bear costume out to be cleaned. No bear rides for the next couple of weeks...

Altho, perhaps he's depressed because we haven't put him in the bear costume. I think it's how he earns his beer money

R2D2 is not gonna like that oldman, you know how much he enjoys the ride.

But true aqua has been caged up for a while he does need a break.

Aqua I'm so glad that you are here I missed you. No bear costume for me you look just sexy in it.

jewwells, no guttering over it. It sits about 15 feet from the house on a slant....so it holds all the water. Gotta thing, the rain gauge is meant to collect over what a specific area gets. My pickup collects the water from the entire area of the pickup....so it collects more. But it rained like hell last night. I loved it since I was up, as was the wife. I think around 12. We have leaves and branches down all over. Maybe we just got the brunt of it. Of course now jp will say he didn' get a drop.

Good morning all, the rain was so nice, made it very hard to get out of bed after such great sleep!

As for recycling goes, we don't because I won't pay for it, that's ridiculous. But I grew up in Iowa where cans and bottles have a deposit. It was a monthly ritual in college - go home, do laundry, raid pantry, steal every can and bottle I could find, return for a week's worth of beer money, fill up at the full service gas station, say "charge it to my dad", and then back to school, all while my parents were at work and couldn't do anything about it. Ah, those were the days :o)

think, not thing.

cooper, I should have went home with you!

Psst, hey heather typepad kick your name off.

Thanks Doc I din't even notice that.

Onetime, I wish I could still get away with that! We got a ton o' rain and the storm as well, stepped out for the last smoke of the day around 11:45 and it was a monsoon. Our trees held up pretty well, but the streets were a mess with limbs and leaves.

Nope onetime, diameter of opening doesn't matter. An inch of rain will fill a container 1" regardless of size.
On another side of the scale. It takes 10 inches of snow to equal 1" of rain in term of water volume.

Your welcome, couldn't let you go around as the nameless one. Aqua was probably wondering who was talking to him. He might of thought he had a secret admirer.

Heather, it’s good to hear from you again. I have to go and rustle up some lunch for Wally and the Beaver so I’ll catch ya later.

Hey Doc, I was wondering who that was. I'm very pleased it was Heather. And by the way Doc, won't you take it easy on the Beaver?

Have a good day Kat and I will chat with you later

Aqua you know I love you

Send some of the rain my way we need it. Right now its good we are not having any rain in the metro area it keeps the rivers current and water lever down so they can get the people and all the cars out of the water.

Aqua?? a secret admirer???

and Kat's fixing lunch? thought we were ordering in?

Well,

have a luncheon meeting...

Kat, R2, Aqua, Heather, Doc...

Y'all are welcome to attend

Don't forget to grab james & bring him along

Lunch sounds good right about now, Italian Food!

Got golf legue this afternoon, will be eating a salad for lunch, nothing heavy.

okay jewwells, I'll take your word. I have the brains of a goldfish so no debate from me. bloop.

Sorry Oldman can't make lunch today, I am leaving work a little early so I'm not taking a lunch. I hope you guys have a good time though

annnd the blog goes dead.

I m here onetime

kinda a let down when you refresh and there's nothing new! And how is searching today?

me too...

Same here, just waiting on person I go to lunch with to get ready.

Working.. Been Pounded by end of month this time. I have to depend on other people or else if would be over.

My lunch break is at 12:30 ,which is a long wait when your starvin'... lol

I am here

Searching, I had the same problem, finally got my head above water again yesterday. I absolutely hate having to rely on others to do my job, drives me insane!

I'm sitting here waiting for people to figure out what to do as far as flowers for the boss's bday tomorrow. When I say check your email I guess that means check it in the next 24 hours. I need to order them in the next 30 minutes. Might just order them myself and tell them have fun handing her your card.

See? There are lots of us still here. Maybe we are just a little quiet today. Nah, just busy!

Well. I put up calendars and charts and remind them of due dates... Still nothing. So by the time I get all the pieces from all the departments.. have to run my but off to get the reports done in time for the board meeting.

Nah is right never been accussed of being quiet before?

Preaching to the choir my friend, I send out email after email with deadlines in bold, copy their supervisors, everything I can think of, some people just don't grasp the concept of working as a team.

Did not mean to end with ? Should have been !

some people just don't grasp the concept of working as a team.

Posted by: cooper1178 | Thursday, August 09, 2007 at 12:10 PM

or the term deadline, need by, must have by. I could go on forever

Team? huh?

lol

I do have it pretty good though. If it gets too bad I tell the CFO and she pulls people in and gives her Searching not getting this is unacceptable speech and they fall in line for awhile

Lunch has called!! back shortly.

At least you do have someone on your side searching...

Doesnt you boss stand up for you?

Besides if I dont get done.. She wont have what she needs for the board meeting and the other board members will point and laugh.. so she has motivations

lol, sometimes thats all it takes, a little motivation!

I've got a couple of bigwigs on my side, but I just hate doing that, because then I look like the big bad bus driver. I ask for the same stuff every month, just do your flipping job.

Amen sister Amen

people suck. Hey lets get boss flowers. Okay. So I get in touch with someone who can get them for me 50% off a bouquet. She's in a hurry so we need to decide asap. Then people finally come around to wanting to go talk to her. Then get pissy when I say "well can't now, shoulda done it 30 minutes ago when I told ya"

That's why I dont volunteer for that anymore. Also, there is the where you going for lunch thing. You know where someone says can you pick me up this and someone else chimes in and pretty soon you are hauling in tons of bags. and you always end up paying for part of someones lunch somehow

Onetime:
I work in an office with just one other woman besides me. Ten men. When it comes time for gift giving to our boss, the guys seem to hem haw around. Got tired of trying to collect money, so now, the other female and I get something for him with a card signed by both of us. The guys are not happy, but I'm done with paying for it and everyone signing the card!

Oh and the ones that ask the most would never do it for someone else!

A few items of note-according to Google, no cats were injured or killed on 08/08/2007, so I had to settle for these...

Woman finds human skull at auction

From the Tampa area, where ironic T-shirts are news, but none today, either
Man Claims To Have Magical Sword During Heist, Deputies Say

So true Searching!

Thats how it is here certian people only get cards and things like that for B-day or whatever and want money from the whole team
but when it comes to mine i get nothing so I dont sign the card or help out, if your going to do for one do it for every one.

my wife says I have a magical sword.


Now your just braggin' onetime

We had a wedding shower here once for a girl who does everything out of the goodness of her heart for a certain group and they came and ate cake and didnt even buy one present between the 4 of them.

Thieves Tracked by Trail of Wrappers

Hello, everyone! - "So Happy It's Friday" day is here.

Oops - I mean, "So Happy It's Thursday,"

Okay, you can tell I'm ready for the weekend! LOL

Busy day for me. Spent most of my lunch hour barking at a police dog.

Geez, jp, that was YOU?

searching....lots of people are like that. Sucks.


Ya I read about it in the news. Had to try that just like I had to try the shotgun suicide thing from yesterday.

Actually I have a friend who is a K-9 cop - I bet he'd let me bark at his dog just to laugh at me. LOL

and then open the door....

ya exactly LOL

Actually the dog won't do anything unless he tells him to.

you could be standing there with 10 pounds of weed in a backpack and he wouldn't do anything, unless the command was given... or so that's what he tells me. interesting.

wassup peeps...just doing some chores..quite a storm last nigh eh?...Ni I just came from that blog about the shooting..if you read this..I just want to say..please come back you have some very interesting thing to add...we all get our knippers in a wad every once in a while..this is a slice of society here..it takes all kinds..the point is..if you just leave like that then you can do nothing toward contributing to food for thought to others..you never know what comment you make might just help someone when they need it most..even if someone disagrees with you and they have an open mind..they might change..never know..but you can't do nothing if ya ain't here..lol..I'm done..jumps off soapbox.

jp..I had a friend that said he had to stay away from K-9 cops because he always ruined their dogs...lol..I just found that very hard to believe..but he claimed he would have the dog obeying him instead of the cop...I never witnessed this and if true would be remarkable..but like I said..I think he was sniffing glue or something..

jp...he could tell me whatever he wants, I ain't testing it lol

Actually the dog is a drug dog only. He's not trained to attack. They don't often cross train them I'm told because some dogs are good at sniffing contraband and some are good at attacking, but rarely both.

rumi, I find that very hard to believe. Those officers live with their dogs and nobody else is allowed to handle them. My friend and his k-9 are inseparable. To tell you the truth I'd be much more afraid of my friend than the dog anyway LOL.

Was his name Cesar Milan?

I like the office attitude here on B days.
No one knows, no one cares. Just makes things more simple.

When it comes to our boss/owner here. I don't buy him or donate funds for the cause any longer. Heck the guy has as much in his pocket as I make a month. Condo's in Florida, Mexico, Lake of the Ozark's. A 8000 sq ft place in Lee's Summit. There is nothing I can afford or all of us together can afford that he doesn't already have.
I know I know.. Baa HumBUG

You know, many of you have very valid points about the racism thing, and people getting hurt over the remarks. I clearly remember reading a few yesterday that indicated that we "Baby Boomers" are working longer and that we're possibly preventing younger workers the opportunity to move "up". I had never thought of that, and maybe the theory may be somewhat correct.

However, we "Boomers" may be working longer in our "old age" due to varying factors. Could be that we can't afford to retire, some of us might actually enjoy working for a living, OR it could be that some of us have a retired spouse at home!

I certainly wouldn't want to hinder the younger crowd from making a good living as I have grown children and grandchildren and would like to see them have every opportunity available. BUT, I didn't get my feelings hurt. I enjoy reading the differing opinions from you regular bloggers. Most, if not all, have sensible thoughts to offer.

There are times when this place is like a bunch of panhandlers... the donation envelopes, fundraiser catalogs for fluffy poreclain angels with candles coming out of their mouths, chocolates, pies, knitted dog sweaters and other assorted worthless crap get sent around every 5 minutes.

Now if they'd send something around that I could actually USE I'd probably buy it. give me a catalog for beer, power tools, guns and ammo, and other hunting supplies and I'm down with it.

Ya i agree, old lady. That's all bunk. One more productive worker doesn't take anything away from the rest. It's not a zero sum economy.

The more people there are producing, the more jobs are available, meaning you working doesn't have to put someone else out of work.

my work any and every excuse for a party is used. Oooh it's snowing...bring in a cake!

Aqua - I have The Beaver costume if you want to try it for awhile, but you seem more like a Wally.

I am late on the recycling posts, but we used to have curbside recycling when we lived in CA. It was embarassing to have so many glass beer bottles each week; I made my husband cut back. You could drive down the street on pick up day and see who drank what the week prior.

I agree jp. At least I'm still contributing to the IRS, state and city and NOT withdrawing from them. I'm still paying for half of my health insurance premium (not Medicare) AND I think I'm making a difference at least in my place of employment.

Ya, and when you think about it, it's common sense old lady.

Our standard of living is considerably better than it was 100 years ago, and our population is exponentially larger. Obviously we've added workers and we're better off.

kerri, drive by my place on trash day. People must think I have a party every thursday.

That's funny Onetime. I used to buy a birthday cake and a card (my own funds) for the birthdays in a particular month. The guys used to complain that they didn't have time (5 minutes) to stop to celebrate co-worker's birthdays, so after the last one of the year a few years back, I quit doing that. THEN, "where's the cake?"!!!!

More workers = more consumers= more jobs
Duh!

Kerri, didn't your California neighbors have anything better to do than drive up and down the streets counting how much was imbibed the past week? LOL

Oh, that reminds me - it's bulky trash pickup month. Wish I could just tip over the house and let everything fall out the doors and windows.

You guys need a keg-o-rator.

go to the salvation army and get an old junked out refrigerator. They gave me my first one for free.

you can order the tap kits online for about $150.00. Get the Co2 cylinder filled at any welding supply shop. Buy keg, screw on tap, open valve.... and you've got some good draft beer without all the trash.

Once you're past your initial investment on the tap and possibly the fridge, it's about the same pricewise. used to be alot cheaper, but I think they've raised the tax on it considerably.

Funny Kerri. We don't have recycling where I live but it's important to my husband and me that we recycle as much as possible. You know, for the grandkids! My husband (retired) takes the recycling to Metro North Mall about once a month. Usually the full back of his Explorer full. It used to really bother him when he'd get the beer bottles out. He'd tell them we'd had a BIG family gathering!

jp, I'd do that, but then the wife would really know how much I drink when I have to refill the keg all the time. At least now I can just wander in with my beer and she's none the wiser.

does metro north have a drop there, or do you just take it there because no one will really notice???

kegs pretty much all look the same, onetime. Just exchange it when she's not around.

Or maybe I could start up a keg delivery service. I'd be like the milkman, but I'd leave a keg on your porch.

I get mine from Mel's right up the street from us. There are so many friggin stickers (ABC's stupid worthless and ineffective keg tracking program) on our deposit page I think they're writing over them now LOL.

LOL, onetime.

Too funny Onetime! They have a collection center that's open, I believe, Wednesday thru Saturday. But he did try to drop off some tree clippings once near Smithville lake only to be caught by a Park Ranger! Needless to say, he won't be doing that again!

Oh, and you're right about no one noticing. What a joke for a mall!

Malls are so 5 minutes ago.

Metcalf south is so deserted you could fire a howitzer down the corridors and not hit anyone most days.

I don't know how they stay in business really.

Once the JC Penny's opens down at I-35 and 152, that store will close at Metro North, so then it should die a painful death.

north has been in a slow death for a long time. When I lived up there it was blah. From what I understand the old fart who owns it has everything paid off. So whatever he makes off of it is in his pocket, he doesn't care to bring in new tenants or fix it up. Could be wrong though.

OK onetime, here's a business idea.

Kegs delivered by hot chicks in bikinis. You know it would take 4 or 5 of them to maneuver the keg out of the van and onto the 2 wheeler of course.

Installation would be included, and a free demonstration of the use of the keg as well. Various drinking techniques, glass pouring instructions, etc would be covered in the demo.

what do you think, am I on to something here? I'm thinking we'd go IPO within a year.

jp - could ya have a "chippendales champagne" kind of delivery service for us women (and non-beer drinkers)?

Kinda looking forward to that one. how soon can I place my order?

jp, would you have a shirtless men division as well? I really want a keg-erator when we move and I would sign up for the service, as well as probably have more parties ;o)

absolutely. Being the open minded person I am, I'd also include a gay and lesbian service as well.

Of course the lesbian service would be open to both guys and gals.

At first I thought this would include a recipe:

Women Save 17-Pound Lobster

lol kmb and cooper - great minds think alike.

I was told by a Macy's employee that they are going to tear the mall down and make it more like Zona Rosa. Keep the anchor stores (Macy's and JC Penny). I find that hard to believe and especially now that The_Golfer said that JC Penny is building in Liberty. Didn't know that. It's my understanding that the people that once owned Metro North also owned Metcalf South.

Most ridiculous quote of the day is from the lobste story, "I thought I'd be boiling my own grandpa".

UUUhhhhh, your grandpa was a lobster?

I do think you are getting somewhere with that. They could do all the servicing and everything for you.

Homemade raft trip nearly turns deadly for young adults

"Authorities do not believe alcohol was involved."

Yeah, right.

Now I know why women over 40 won't go out with me. They are starving, and I say "Bring me some more!!". Many I meet are exercise freaks. OK, once or twice a week, but ones I run in to do it like 7 days a week and some twice a day.

So I ask "Do you have any life besides work and the gym?". Then they get mad......

The Penney's is being built at 152 and Flintlock, behind the Buffalo Wild Wings, Circuit City. Pretty close to being done.

Exactly onetime! Now you're thinking!

The refrigerators do need to be cleaned out from time to time. Plus if you ran out of co2, they could show up in welding outfits with the tanks and maybe even a torch or something just for effect.

You know how much hot chicks like power tools. There's no denying that, I've seen all the calendars.

any story that starts with "homemade" involves alcohol.

Especially if floating on water is involved.

Thanks for the info The_Golfer. I live in Smithville and haven't been to Liberty for a while. I will admit that Liberty is growing at a fast pace. Have been thinking about downsizing the homestead and might look at Liberty. Been north for 11 years. Moved out of Johnson County and headed north. I like Smithville because it's quiet, buy I'm getting really tired of the 54 mile a day round trip.

oh, THAT kind of servicing. Power tools, I thought they liked cars?

kmb, cooper and rhonda:

Please sign me up, too!

Well eventually when we went nationwide, we could have other types of servicing in states like Nevada where it's legal.

I have a feeling that alot of city councils would throw a fit though. We may have to milk it for all it's worth for about a year, then when the right-wingers start getting upset and call Phil Kline we could sell it and let someone else get it shut down.

come to think of it JP, maybe my tahoe could be put to use. Just my opinion, but I see a nice lookin gal pull up in something like that...I'd prolly order a keg for the next day already.

It would depend on the area onetime.

For areas like westport we'd need a VW magic bus.

For JoCo it would have to be an Escalade or Escursion or something.

For the rural areas we'd need a huge pickup with a lift kit and big knobby tires.

OL - yeah, it has BOOMED on both sides of I-35. You just need to come down and drive around for a little bit. And they are building still.

For Brookside you would need a Prius or bicycle pulled. Earth shoes, tie dyed clothes.....

Aw, jp - shucks. A really great idea, and now you have to get to work:

- Build a new web page for the service.
- Hi