Open Thread ... Thursday
Thanks again for spending a little time today on the Open Thread. This is the blog's spot for off-topic discussion, socializing and what-have-you. And of course, if you've seen an interesting story elsewhere, feel free to post a link below.
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Posted by: Ssgt | Thursday, August 09, 2007 at 05:00 AM
Morning Ssgt, guess you get the fanfare today.
Posted by: Doc™ | Thursday, August 09, 2007 at 05:02 AM
Good mornig KC, another hot one today. Hope everyone that can stays cool. I will be thinking about those folks that have to work outdoors, might even take them a cool drink from time to time if possilbe.
Posted by: Ssgt | Thursday, August 09, 2007 at 05:03 AM
Morning Ssgt.
Posted by: Kat | Thursday, August 09, 2007 at 05:04 AM
How about thinkin about the folks who work in front of a hot fire? Outside is rather nice then.
Posted by: Doc™ | Thursday, August 09, 2007 at 05:05 AM
We had a situation yesterday, one of our employee usually picks up the empty soda cans from folks here in the office. Well his supervisor decided he was stealing from the government because they have places to put the cans in every break room. So the supervisor turns this guy in to upper management and the individual was reprimanded for gathering these cans from individuals that would have just thrown them in the trash anyway.
He did the pick up before and after working hours, so no company time was used, and as I stated the people he got the cans from were the ones who didn't put them in recycle anyway. By the way the employee doing the reclcling is an excellent employee, so they weren't trying to get him because he was a screw up. His supervisor is just that petty and so is the upper management involved..
Posted by: Ssgt | Thursday, August 09, 2007 at 05:15 AM
I recycle my aluminum cans and take them in and make $$ of them does that mean I'm stealing from the government also?
Posted by: Doc™ | Thursday, August 09, 2007 at 05:22 AM
Market prices for aluminum range from $350 to $800/ton from local recycling centers,
I make about $35 for 100# of crush cans about 6 lawn bags full or couple 1000 cans.
Jeez, talk about a cheap boss, I wouldn't work for the idiot.
Posted by: Doc™ | Thursday, August 09, 2007 at 05:36 AM
Morning all!!
So the recycling is the government's? We have bins to recycle here, but I take mine home and recycle(make $$) myself. That boss is jealous because he didn't do it first. Moron.
JDog, did you get my question about do you play in the league from where you work?
Posted by: The_Golfer | Thursday, August 09, 2007 at 06:26 AM
Being that he is a good employee, you would have thought the supervisor could have just said something to him directly without involving upper management. Is there possibly something else going on that has nothing to do with cans/recycling at all?
Posted by: Kat | Thursday, August 09, 2007 at 06:33 AM
Yeah Kat, you are right. It does kind of sound like this manager has it out for the model employee. Maybe this person's name is/was being bantered for a position above this current manager and this person wanted it. Best way to get it is to destroy your competition.....
Posted by: The_Golfer | Thursday, August 09, 2007 at 06:42 AM
Or it is time for the evaluation and a raise or the amount of it is a factor.
Posted by: Kat | Thursday, August 09, 2007 at 06:49 AM
The_Golfer
Sounds like you do what I do with your cans, make money from it. Most people just throw them out. In some states you pay a deposit on them like oregon 10¢ a can, but they have machines at each store where you just pop them in and get your money inside the store, same for plastic 2-Liter bottles. Here in the Midwest the state has centers where they want you to take them so they can make the money from it. I take mine to Merriam Ln. and 635 and make cash, they pay for all kinds of stuff not just aluminum.
Posted by: Doc™ | Thursday, August 09, 2007 at 06:53 AM
Good morning everyone. Ssgt, since when are aluminum cans part of the government property? Aren't they considered private enterprise property? Why would anyone be so petty, and is this person following the employee around for a reason. I think Kat is right on target with this one.
Posted by: CareBear | Thursday, August 09, 2007 at 06:58 AM
I forgot to mention that I work for a federal agency, the cans that go into the recycle bins in the break room are sold to supplement the employee rec fund. The thing is the Goodwill folks that do our trash do not recycle them they just throw them out. But most of the cans he was picking up were coming from individuals. But that is why our facilicity folks counseled him on stealing from the rec fund.
I just found out that the manager was removed last Friday for cause. It seems it was a case of racisum the forced his removal. So I guess what goes around, comes around. But it is good for the agency that this idiot was removed.
Posted by: Ssgt | Thursday, August 09, 2007 at 07:02 AM
Narc Anon is a religious group?
Killed for taking a second wife
Dirty old man?
Posted by: The_Golfer | Thursday, August 09, 2007 at 07:03 AM
Doc - Trying to find a place that will pay for 1/2 liter water bottles. Then I could make sure REAL $$.
Posted by: The_Golfer | Thursday, August 09, 2007 at 07:06 AM
The_Golfer,
Are they Glass or Plastic. I think that place on Merriam Dr and 635 old Renyolds plant takes plastic. I know they take Glass, Brass, Aluminum. They have a sign on just what they will pay for.
This is the place give them a call and see what they have to say.
OBN Recycling INC.
4203 Merriam Dr.
913-831-1541
Posted by: Doc™ | Thursday, August 09, 2007 at 07:22 AM
Good Morning all.
Woke up with a wheelbarrel full of water and no electricity.
I went to bed at 10:30 last night and my none digital clock stopped at 11:00. So, my freezers and refrigerators and A/C was off all night. Thank god the temperature had dropped.
I called aquila and told their auto answer service my electricity was off. They said they would send somebody out..
I got a call 2 minutes later and they were asking me if I was sure that my electricity was off... what kinda question is that.
They said they had already fixed the problems in my area.. I told them they missed one... What an idiot.
Posted by: Searching | Thursday, August 09, 2007 at 07:44 AM
Golfer,
I do not play in any work related league. I do play in the KC Cup matches for Hillcrest; usually alternating shot.
Do you want to pursue the Kelsey tounament?
I posted yesterday or the day before that the best way to converse with me (right now) is via my email; (things are really busy at work, so I'm not in CSKC as much as in the past.
Posted by: JDog | Thursday, August 09, 2007 at 07:50 AM
k, I have the e-mail that James sent, will be in touch shortly about the Kelsey tourney. Trying to get 2 others.
Posted by: The_Golfer | Thursday, August 09, 2007 at 07:55 AM
Interesting story from Seattle - I have never heard of this before, sorry I have forgotten how to post links:
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/jamieson/326927_robert09.html
Posted by: Patty PV | Thursday, August 09, 2007 at 08:03 AM
LOL Searching... what do they expect you to do, stick a finger in a light socket just to make sure?
Oh, hang ong.... BBBZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZPPPP Oh, GEEZEE G---- D------!!!@#$@#$@# Man that hurt.. Ouch... (back to phone), ya, sorry guys it's really on. Sorry for buggin ya.
LOL
Posted by: jpbikerfreak | Thursday, August 09, 2007 at 08:15 AM
Morning, everybody. I have it on good authority that today will be excellent ...
Posted by: James Hart | Thursday, August 09, 2007 at 08:23 AM
Hey jp, in light of your house buying experience, I promised you a quote from a book I've been reading, and here it is. Note that I do not mean to be offensive to anyone! The book is in the context of the Spanish civil war, and I found it amusing:
"Marriage, Army, Church and Banking - the four horses of the Apocolypse." - Carlo Ruiz Zafon (from the book Shadow of the Wind)
Posted by: Patty PV | Thursday, August 09, 2007 at 08:35 AM
I know I am might end up with a reaction for the following statement.. but as a woman, I find that I get asked a lot of idiot questions like that. The water company was supposed to replace my meter and valve because the other one is so rusted that when you run your hand on it rust and chunks of eatem metal fall of in your hand. When I called after 6mths and they still hadnt done it.. he asks me rust.. are you sure its not dirt..
I would never had been asked these idiot questions if I was a guy!
Posted by: Searching | Thursday, August 09, 2007 at 08:37 AM
Searching - don't bet on it. They are trying to avoid work as much as possible. Had it happen to me and I am male.
Posted by: The_Golfer | Thursday, August 09, 2007 at 08:43 AM
Morning all...
Golfer, how much rain did you get last night? We had an additional 4/10th's, which is so badly needed!
Posted by: Tam | Thursday, August 09, 2007 at 08:48 AM
great sleeping weather last night...too bad my front porch flooded and there is mulch everywhere. I am kind of grossed out because there was dog poo in that mulch but now its nowhere to be found.
Posted by: "The G" | Thursday, August 09, 2007 at 08:55 AM
Patty - In most cases if a cop that is pulled over shows their badge, the 2 cops talk for a bit and then the offending cop is sent on their way. Happens in KC all the time. Got too many cops living around me that use this regularly.
Posted by: The_Golfer | Thursday, August 09, 2007 at 08:58 AM
Yep, my dad was in the Sheriff's Reserve and took advantage of that system. He kept his driver's license in a leather wallet that also displayed his badge, and voila, never got a ticket. However, I've never heard of any police force using stickers of different colors on your bumper to signify your status.
Posted by: Patty PV | Thursday, August 09, 2007 at 09:03 AM
MORNING ALL
Posted by: J | Thursday, August 09, 2007 at 09:06 AM
Funny, Patty! And there's truth in it!
I'll admit you're right, searching. My girlfriend gets the run-around more than I do, partially because I've usually done my homework on a subject before I call (she just doesn't have time since she has a real job), but partly because of the reasons you listed.
Of course most of the time I don't give them a chance, I just go through the whole thing start to finish and then cut them off when they start asking questions that lead down a dirt road.
Posted by: jpbikerfreak | Thursday, August 09, 2007 at 09:09 AM
Tam - probably about the same, no rain gauge. Rained hard and wind blew for a short time, then I fell asleep and slept like a baby.
Posted by: The_Golfer | Thursday, August 09, 2007 at 09:10 AM
Something about rain... always makes a person sleep better. The wind was terrible for a short time though. I could do without that.
Posted by: Tam | Thursday, August 09, 2007 at 09:15 AM
J&J sues the Red Cross
Posted by: The_Golfer | Thursday, August 09, 2007 at 09:19 AM
I remeber as a kid at Grandma's, metal roof, and the rain pelting down. OK as long as no hail, then it got REAL noisy. With the constant, steady sound, just lolled you to sleep. More restful, less stressful, kind of like last night, but no metal roof.
Posted by: The_Golfer | Thursday, August 09, 2007 at 09:22 AM
All of you good sleepers must not have dogs lol. One of mine has the Indian name "Barks at Thunder".
Posted by: rhonda | Thursday, August 09, 2007 at 09:24 AM
morning Doc.
morning Kat,
what king of idiot puts his gun on the counter during a robbery to count the money? Did he think the clerk short changed him?
Posted by: oldman | Thursday, August 09, 2007 at 09:27 AM
rhonda, good name for a dog. My name for a dog I had was "Pees when doorbell rings".
Posted by: Tam | Thursday, August 09, 2007 at 09:32 AM
rhonda - got dogs, he has just learned that we just tell him to shut up and get still. He will just lay outside my room and relax.
Posted by: The_Golfer | Thursday, August 09, 2007 at 09:36 AM
Thankfully my dog gets scared and puts his head under the bed then tries to lay as still and quiet as possible until things pass...
Posted by: "The G" | Thursday, August 09, 2007 at 09:36 AM
'Redneck Games' end in raucous arrests
These competitors forgo the shotput for the "Mattress Chuck" -- where teams of two slam a 12-pack of beer, get in a pickup truck and start driving, then climb into the bed and throw the mattress as far as possible.
And if you aren't planning on heading to Beijing for the next Olympic Games, there's always the ugly "butt-crack contest."
By the time the latest event ended Sunday, more than 54 arrests and citations had been issued on charges ranging from public intoxication to speeding, according to the Henderson County Sheriff's Department.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/08/08/redneck.games.ap/index.html
I'm so ashamed of my fellow white folks after reading this! They make us all look bad. Now the cops will be racially profiling me and pulling me over to check for mattresses.
(For the humor-challenged, this is supposed to be sarcastic ... especially considering some of the racial charge remarks posted regarding the cop shootings.)
Posted by: kayceewolf | Thursday, August 09, 2007 at 09:40 AM
Morning oldman,
I would think someone who didn't want the money that bad, if I was the clerk I'd throw the money at him and grab the gun.
Posted by: Doc™ | Thursday, August 09, 2007 at 09:46 AM
Doc: Just like in the rap videos! They're always throwing money in the air.
Posted by: James Hart | Thursday, August 09, 2007 at 09:49 AM
Doc...
I read the article, stated that the robber put down the shotgun to count the money, the clerk grabbed the shotgun & the robber fled...
Later, the robber returned to get the shotgun from the clerk..
Obviously, this guy's gonna show up on Worlds Dumbest Criminals, but isn't the idea to take the money & run? Why come back for a loaded shotgun, he didn't think the clerk would use it?? Did he think the clerk was as dumb as he???
Posted by: oldman | Thursday, August 09, 2007 at 09:51 AM
Morning Doc, Kat, Oldman
I save my aluminum cans, I have a church not to far from my house that takes them so I usually just drop them off there. i don't make any money from it but that's ok.
Doc: I agree but when I grabbed the gun I would shoot him in the leg so he couldn't go to far.
Posted by: heather | Thursday, August 09, 2007 at 09:51 AM
I'm with you, kayceewolf, it's really getting ugly over on that thread.
On a related note, we're told we will never hear from Ni again. That really hurts my feelings, considering all the great advice we gave her yesterday.
Posted by: rhonda | Thursday, August 09, 2007 at 09:53 AM
Morning Heather...
I seldom have aluminum cans as I don't drink soda and prefer my beer in glass (even if it's O'Douls)...
Due my diligence with recycling & separate all my trash & put it out so Deffenbaugh can charge me to pick it up & make money off of it...
Posted by: oldman | Thursday, August 09, 2007 at 09:55 AM
Why is Ni going away?
Posted by: The_Golfer | Thursday, August 09, 2007 at 09:55 AM