OP plans DUI saturation patrol for March 14

From Overland Park PD:

The Overland Park, Kansas Police Department is conducting a DUI Saturation Patrol on March 14, 2008.  It is the police department’s goal to reduce alcohol related auto accidents and discourage impaired driving within its community. 

The DUI Saturation Patrol will begin at 11:00 PM, and the enforcement will not end until 3:00 AM.  The Traffic Safety Unit will hold a briefing at the Myron Scafe Building, 8500 Antioch, Overland Park, KS, prior to initiating the enforcement. 

Comments

[Uncle Sam]

It is the police department’s goal to reduce alcohol related auto accidents and discourage impaired driving within its community. -------------------------------

LOL, Not to mention lining their pockets while showing us who's in charge by harassing the other 99.9% of the population is just an extra bonus.

The City of Overland Park must need money

Big 12 Drunks Beware!

[You're a Mean Drunk R2D2™]

Well, the good news for me is that I won't be in OP that night. :)

[Sasquach]

Read: Saturation Patrol
Not: Sobriety Checkpoint

In order to be "harassed" by the police conducting this patrol, they have to have reasonable suspicion to pull you over. This type of patrol is not that much different than a speed trap, except that they are looking for drunks rather than speeders. They don't stop every driver, only the ones that draw enough suspician to warrant being pulled over.

[awthrfrd]

The comments so far seems like only drunks and boobs care about this. Just remember one drink per hour or have a DD. If you are dumb enough to drive drunk I hope they bust you and take your license away.

[Uncle Sam]

Sasquatch- I understand the difference between czechpoints and saturation patrols... however, with the ever-growing list of probable cause for stopping a motorist this is nothing but lip-service.

I mean, one can get pulled over for any reason if the cop feels like it.

[concerned]

OP needs the $$$$ to subsidize the developers in the newly annexed areas...

[Bill]

Uncle Sam:

If a cop pulls you over and you have done nothing wrong what reason does he give for pulling you over? It doesn't happen unless it's a checkpoint.

Quit drinking and driving and register your car.

[KAB]

and get insurance. This especially applies to all you who are in this country in a less than legal status.

[Uncle Sam]

Bill- Why is it when an individual voices their displeasure of police conduct, people like you assume they are criminals, drunks, etc?

I guess following blindly single-file and not questioning policies is for the good of the children. In your world i'm sure cops and others in "authority" do no wrong and never abuse their power. Quite sad really.

[Nick]

Bill- Why is it when an individual voices their displeasure of police conduct, people like you assume they are criminals, drunks, etc? - Uncle Sam

They don't assume that. They simply want to discredit any possible opposition to their scheme.

Saturation Request! Shawnee Mission Parkway & Foster. You'll fill a drunk tank per hour, quick trip nearby! Easiest overtime you ever made.

[Manuel]

The lawers are the ones that must be very happy for all the DUI related phone calls on Monday morning.

[JewwellsP]

Nick, I said before. Why don't they patrol 119th & Nall?
No matter to me, my lil a$$ will be home when they start all this crap anyway.

[kcskip]

If it helps to minimize the number of drunk drivers on the road, the good. If you're not driving drunk or breaking any other laws, you have nothing to worry about. I had a neice killed by a drunk driver. I have a friend that drove drunk and killed two people. I have 3 daughters that drive on these streets. I don't want them killed by a drunk driver. I drink. I drive. I don't drink AND drive. And I"m as protective as they get of our rights and liberties. But I will give them some latitude on this one. GET the DRUNKS OFF the STREETS!

[Big Brother]

If it helps to minimize the number of drunk drivers on the road, the good. If you're not driving drunk or breaking any other laws, you have nothing to worry about. I had a neice killed by a drunk driver. I have a friend that drove drunk and killed two people. I have 3 daughters that drive on these streets. I don't want them killed by a drunk driver. I drink. I drive. I don't drink AND drive. And I"m as protective as they get of our rights and liberties. But I will give them some latitude on this one. GET the DRUNKS OFF the STREETS!
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Again, let's just line everyone up and strip search them every time one leaves their home. Oh, and let's just install cameras inside everyone's houses too, and microchips and serial numbers...I mean if you are doing nothing wrong, you have nothing to worry about right?

[blarney]

Big Brother, fact of the matter is you are driving on a publicly funded road and it's not a right it's a priveledge. You have to do it by the rules.

[fpgilman]

Please read Martin v. Kansas Department of Revenue, No. 94,033. This decision of the Kansas Supreme Court states that the fourth amendment does not apply to administrative suspensions for alcohol test failures or refusals. You are subject to a stop of your vehicle without reasonable, articuable suspicion. The police do not need a reason to stop you and your vehilce! If you subsequently fail or refuse a test of breath, blood or urine, your license will be suspended. Scared yet? Call your state representative and your state senator. This decision came down February 1, 2008.

[j]

Nope. Not scared.

[What A Country!]

If the local and state governments truly wanted drunks off the road, they would lower the BAC limit to .02 like many other countries. .02 means if you have even one drink, you can not drive legally.

However, .08 means you can take your chances and governments will get rich from your fines if you happen to be over the limit, and police don't have to fight dangerous crime. Just the politically correct kind that draws major revenue.

I am completely against drunk driving. But even more against the facade that is our governments acting like they are keeping us safer while lining their pockets.

Zero tolerance is the only safe answer. But it doesn't pay the bills.

[linda]

I'm not stupid enough to drink and drive. And I'm sure as hell not stupid enough to drive in Johnson County, that's the scary part!

[dave]

I have a rant here not for Overland Park in general but the state of KS. I got a dwi over 1 1/2 ago in MO. I recently bought a house in KS, I went to get a KS d.l. today and I was informed by the bureau that I am suspended in KS. I have never had a license in KS, but when I got the ticket in MO they sent the information over. I haven't had a license for over a year now and KS is telling me per their law I can't get one until October of 2008 because they received a notice in October of 2007 about my ticket. There is no way around the law, so I am going to use a KC, MO address and reregister my vehicle in MO and I will be valid. Kansas Laws in general are terrible, I understand I made a mistake but come on this is nuts.

[JewwellsP]

Dave, next time. Refuse the test. Call a better lawyer.

[Big Brother]

Big Brother, fact of the matter is you are driving on a publicly funded road and it's not a right it's a priveledge. You have to do it by the rules.---Blarney

Who said anything about not driving by the rules? What does that have anything to do with being subjected to being pulled over and harassed on a whim in the name of safety? Keep living in your fantasy land and believing this is for our own good when in reality it is nothing but a money-grab.

"And I'm sure as hell not stupid enough to drive in Johnson County, that's the scary part"

Ya sure? Have you been tested recently?

Sorry, couldn't resist....

[kcskip]

Oh brother Big Brother. What you do in your own house is your business. But once you get out on the roads that you share with the rest of us, you have certain obligations. Even if you have to pull over at a sobriety checkpoint, no one has taken anything away from you. You get to drive on and resume your life as normal. YOu can still vote, you can surf the internet for porn, you can protest funerals of dead soldiers if you're so inclined. You still cannot have sex with a dead deer you find on the side of the road. I'm sorry, like I said I'm big on constitutional liberties, and I would guess you and I probably agree on many things. But having been through the personal experiences that I have been through regarding drunk drivers, this is the way I feel on this particular issue.

[blarney]

Big Brother that is one of the rules of driving on the road. It's not a fantasy it's the law that they can do sobriety check points and the law has stood up. Keep living in your fantasy world where you think this isn't a rule. Nobody said it was for their own good I said it was the rule, how come in all your bluster you missed what was said but then added what you wanted?

[kcskip]

Oh brother Big Brother. What you do in your own house is your business. But once you get out on the roads that you share with the rest of us, you have certain obligations. Even if you have to pull over at a sobriety checkpoint, no one has taken anything away from you. You get to drive on and resume your life as normal. YOu can still vote, you can surf the internet for porn, you can protest funerals of dead soldiers if you're so inclined. You still cannot have sex with a dead deer you find on the side of the road. I'm sorry, like I said I'm big on constitutional liberties, and I would guess you and I probably agree on many things. But having been through the personal experiences that I have been through regarding drunk drivers, this is the way I feel on this particular issue.

[Education...not for blarney]

Blarney- saturation not checkpoint.

Learn how to read yourself before spewing your insults.

[Big Brother]

Sure blarney, I'm the one who misinterpreted my own posts...lol.

[Big Brother]

skip-
I'm sorry for your losses, but statistically the results of these patrols aren't nearly as effective to warrant the hype and manpower as the cops and politicians lead people to believe.
These patrols and checkpoints net far more money and tickets from seat-belt violations and broken tailights than removing dangerous drunks off the road.

[kcskip]

Not sure why my last one posted twice.
Anyway, maybe the act of advertising that they're doing a saturation patrol discourages people from drinking and driving. Maybe that causes fewer drunks to actually be on the road. Maybe not, I don't know. Certainly more can be done though. More education, more parenting, etc. I know I've had many conversations with my kids about it. We all need to do our part. I don't take up a lot of causes. But drinking and driving is taking away good people from this world, and it needs to stop. Sorry for coming off so pius.

[Thom Jefferson]

Blarney why do you hate the freedoms gaurenteed by the constituition? Why do you and idiots like Bill assume that because someone values the freedom of going through the day without police infringement is a way out liberal concept? I don't want to be stopped for no reason, by some moron that is just looking for the chance to taser someone. I don't want someone listening to my conversations no matter what I am talking about.

This is or was the USA. Scaredy cat people like you who need the government to protect them from the big bad world are a waste of American space. You need to go to Venezuala and enjoy the type of political environment that you seem to need and enjoy.

[Billy Martin]

If Op is having a DUI Saturation Patrol I will certainly show up saturated.

[Jimmy Dean]

Umm . . . the idiots that are here in a "less than legal" status probably don't understand enough English to read your post anyway.

It's the hoodrats that dont pay child support to their "baby mama" that i'm more worried about. They never have insurance.

It is all about the money. That is all that OP cares about. The motto used to be "to protect and serve", now it is "pass your wallet"

[Steven]

Here's a simple idea: Build pedestrian-friendly neighborhoods, where people can easily walk home from the bars. Or, they can at least walk to the bar, then take a cab home. In European countries, even the suburbs are pedestrian-friendly. This would be preferable to the low rent stripmalls and McMansions that you see around here.

[Mel Gibson]

Doesn't O.P. have something like a dozen police cars? How are they going to saturate anything? Stay home March 14th. Don't patronize bars or restaurants in O.P. that day. Let them lose sales tax revenue as well as traffic ticket revenue.

[blarney]

Thom Jefferson said"
"Blarney why do you hate the freedoms gaurenteed by the constituition? Why do you and idiots like Bill assume that because someone values the freedom of going through the day without police infringement is a way out liberal concept? I don't want to be stopped for no reason, by some moron that is just looking for the chance to taser someone. I don't want someone listening to my conversations no matter what I am talking about."

What an asinine question. I said there are rules because it's a publicly funded road. I can see basically you are just anti police and see them as thugs, most likely you're one of these little anarchist types who thinks no laws are good.

"This is or was the USA. Scaredy cat people like you who need the government to protect them from the big bad world are a waste of American space. You need to go to Venezuala and enjoy the type of political environment that you seem to need and enjoy."

Scaredy cat people like me? WoW you are just going for the gold with asinine statements. I suggest you read a few of my posts before making statements like this it really does just make you look dumb as hell.

[blarneytool]

Care to address the real comments blarney? Or is just exchanging insults more your speed?

[blarney]

big brother said:
"Sure blarney, I'm the one who misinterpreted my own posts...lol."

I didn't say misinterpreted. I said you missed what I said and just added your own. You seem to be continuing the process now...it must be a habit.

I also notice someone trying to play the name game because the lack the testy's to post up a name and have to stand up behind what they post. Pretty pathetic for an anonymous board, must be more liberals who can't handle themselves and need help from others.

[blarney]

blarneytool, sorry I should have known by your inability to have the courage to come up with a name instead of spoofing mine you would also be too stupid to see I did address them. thanks for being the poster child of why guv'ment edjumakashun is not a good thing.

[blarney]

*crickets chirping*

[what's a testy?]

Conversing w/ blarney is like crickets chirping- what a douche.

[Big Brother]

blarney, some of us actually enjoy an adult conversation and a healthy debate. The majority of your posts contain insults and have little to do with adding to the discussion. So, forgive me if I don't respond to your level-I was taught if have nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all.

[Bwilliams]

Suspicious reasons? What if you're a black man driving a nice car in OP. It's got me pulled over before.

[blarney]

testy, what's a matter you have to keep changing names cuz you keep making a fool of yourself.

Big Brother, no the majority of my posts contain retorts to stupidity. You brought it onto yourself and then obviously can't handle it. after you get made an ass of(mostly doing it to yourelf) you take the high road. You won't respond because you are now shooting blanks and couldn't be adult enough to have a conversation like an adult.

Next time pull your head out of your arse don't make statements about living in fantasy lands etc. and try to do this like you have an iq above room temperature and most likely you won't be made a fool of.

I love the way the ones who always start the trouble are the ones who whine first then try the high road after the shoot blanks. You obviosly weren't taught very well considering your posts, I'm sure it's mommy and daddys fault though and not yours. LOL!

[blarney]

big brother, I suggest next time listening to your parents when they talk about honesty since you seem to have an issue with changing what people say or just plain making it up. Oh wait they only taught you about saying nice things they weren't interested in teaching you not to lie right? LOL!

[Big Brother]

Somebody definitely has some anger issues. It's nice to know that your intelligent responses include insulting my parents too. I didn't know that was the topic.

[blarney]

big brother, you brought up how you were supposedly raised. I'm just pointing out the flaws in that statement. Cry all you want but next time use manners when posting to others and maybe you won't end up crying.

[Thom Jefferson]

Blarney the Blowhard. Check the other post's. Looks like the majority thinks you are dim witted. Plus you telling that guy that he was brought up bad....well that shows you are a punk that hides behind the internet. Now STFU before I have to spank you.

[St. Patrick]

Blarney please change your post name. You insult my entire race you freaking idiot. I mean blarney is Irish for shite and you boyo are full of it.

[blarney]

What's wrong tommyboy you and 2other people have decided you are the majority? LOL. Let's let the spanking begin i'm off work at 5. I will be waiting by the scout sine it's close to work and you seem to be interested in making threats.

I'm not a punk that hides behind the internet in the least, if you want to test this be my guest.

St. Patrick you insult yourself by getting on the computer when mommy isn't looking. No blarney is not Irish for shite, good to know you have such a firm understanding of your supposed "race".LOL! Irish also is not a race but then again given your already proven limited intelligence.

Irish is a nationality, Blarney is the name of a stone that you kiss for good luck by bending over backwards through a small arch. You are a buffoon at best.

[blarney]

*crickets chirping* again. I love it when people talk big then disappear when they get called on it. LOL!

It's okay tommyboy I won't make fun of you for this. Just next time know your roll and don't talk beyond your own courage. LOL!

[I eat boogers]

blarney needs some serious help.

[blarney]

for some reason when someone who says "I eat boogers" tries to say someone needs help it's almost as laughable as these other guys on this thread and their little tough guy attitudes.

[a dad, too]

Dave -- you lost your license in Missouri for being a drunk driver and now you're mad because you can't simply move across state line and get a Kansas license?
Tuff sh*t loser.

[Factman]

DUI saturation patrol wow...time to load the 84 dodge van and move from kiddy land ?
Not so good anymore ? like 15 min from a hell hole like KC would make diff.....

[I eat boogers]

blarney - that was a test that you failed miserably. My statement could have been interpreted to mean that you need help defending yourself. However, from your reply it should be interpreted that you have some issues and you need help with the way you respond.

Damn police.

Damn drunks.

I avoid one, the other screws me.

the B Guy

[blarney]

sure it was booger, that's why you followed me to another thread making comments too. LOL!

Jeez why do you guys continue to set yourselves up for moments of retardation?

[I eat boogers]

blarney must now be eating his hat, or perhaps his keyboard

[blarney]

factman, no it won't make a difference. There are fools everywhere.

[I eat boogers]

following you where? DELUSIONAL

[blarney]

hey booger, good post try it faster next time so you dont look dumb. Oh wait let me guess, it was a test...rigth? LOLOLOLOL!

[blarney]

well boogers you followed me another thread and tried to throw out insults there too.

[I eat boogers]

blarney -
Do you hate your mother?
Did your father used to beat you mercilessly?
Problem with authorities - teachers, ministers, etc.?
Not enough attention growing up?
Were you the one kids always picked on?
Probably wet the bed?
Always got caught picking your nose?
Problems meeting "girls"?
Feeling socially inadequate due to lack of education?

Please seek help!

[I eat boogers]

Your paranoia in thinking I am cyberstalking is showing the breaks in your armor. Get help before you hurt someone you love.

[I eat boogers]

crickets chirping...

[blarney]

what's wrong boogers, having problems because you follow me around and look no smarter than tommyboy or big baby er uh brother.

[I eat boogers]

last word. Ha Ha.

[I eat boogers]

Guess my questions to blarney above struck some nerves. Don't worry blarney. Your mom still loves you. Long time!

You're both infantile.

the B Guy

[blarney]

No I found the questions humorous. I figure since you guys obviously aren't smart enough to argue your points about the topic and I already outsmarted you guys while you were trying to throw out insults I would wait for the adults to show up so this topic could be discussed without the ignorance of you and your two little girlfriends showing up. Oh by the way big baby er un...brother is the one you need to talk to about if his parents love him, and tommyboy might be the one you want to talk about being picked on. He sure wanted to talk tough till he had an opportunity to act on it. Yea they seem pretty much your speed so you talk to them and I will talk to the adults since you guys have already been shown to be nothing more than a punchline.

Oh wait you could ask st. patrick about his RACE...LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!

[blarney]

Yes, b guy I can be infantile.

Now onto the topic. Yes they both screw you but the issues is do they have a right? yes they do because they have passed laws(also known as rules for the intellectually impaired)giving them authority to do this on publicly funded roads. Private roads and offroad is none of their concern and though it sucks at times it's not going to change.

[AllnADaysWork]

And tell your hard headed teens to buckle up because the police does not need a reason to pull over anyone under legal age. New law passed January 2008. The police can pull over a teen driver any time, any day for any reason. Main reason: To encourage teens to buckle up... before they wreck.

So... if it's law... you're okay with it?

I assume you're pro-choice then?

the B Guy

[Words]

Wow what words we use today...Enough said, I was stopped in OP for DUI, Thank God. It has literally changed my life for the better. I don't criticize people; just think about your actions before you make them. Pass the Keys to a sober driver; there are cabs all over town. Remember you can still have a few and have fun, just please don't drive!!!! $6,000 later I still have my license but man was it really worth the cost??

Think before you drink and drive

[I eat boogers]

We have a right to travel unimpeded. As for driving being a privelege??? Those are the words thrown out by the powers to be to keep the masses dumb. Driving is a necessity and no one can impede your ability to motivate.

[I eat boogers]

p.s. blarney is a tool

[blarney]

B-guy, no if it's the law it's the law. Explain what moaning and bitching about it on a message board accomplishes? It seems more prudent to not break the law.

[blarney]

Well boogers again is just amazing with his incredible intellect.

Just because you have a right to travel unimpeded(actually that's not a right but for arguments sake I will play along). This has nothing to do with driving. Driving is a priviledge plain and simple always has to say otherwise just shows your ignorance.

Only a complete and total retard would try get confused on the right to move freely about the country and this somehow equating to a form of transportation.

you have a right to travel freely so walk your ass around, but don't be stupid and think it has to do with driving. Anyone with an iq above room temperature knows better than this.

Discussion on forums over time leads to a change in the opinions of a populace.

If you didn't believe that yourself... why are you posting? What do *you* hope to accomplish? It seems more prudent to sit and feel proud of your law-not-breaking self.

the B Guy

[blarney]

Driving is a necessity? BWAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH you get the prize for the absolute stupidest thing said on this board. You do know that there are millions of people in this country who don't drive, never have and never will right?

call me a tool again please it helps complete how stupid you look after making really really dumb statements.

Or, more directly referencing laws, I'll say it simply; Laws can be good or bad, and the bad ones should be protested.

"How can you say DUI laws are bad?!?"

I didn't. If you read, you'll note I deride drunks as well. What I'm advocating is independent thought.

the B Guy

[blarney]

B-man, and tell me what discussions on a message board have changed the minds of the populace? You should have an example to make such a definite statement. Name one law that has been reversed because of message boards.

I never said I don't break the law I never said I do break the law. This is just a feeble attempt at sarcasm.

[blarney]

Okay your last post I don't know who you are posting to because I never made the statement that you think DUI laws are bad.

My only stance from jumpstreet if you read back up through this is it's the law. This isn't going to change. As long as the government helps support public streets they will require people to succumb to what they want to do. Too many special interst groups out there not to.

So basically people can only get beyond this by getting the government tit out of their mouth. Too many people like boogers though who lack the intellect to be self suffficient and take care of themselves so this is not going to happen. The losers of this country (like boogers, big baby, tommyboy) need a nannystate simply so they can survive. There are more of them than there are of us so we are stuck going along for the ride.

I'd *love* the gov tit out of the mouth. Too much nanny state is ruining this country.

In fact... DUI enforement is yet another Nanny State device. Care for me! Protect me from the dangerous others!

Anyway, I can't proove I'm chaning minds; there is only the opportunity for change, not a certainty. Certainly yours is stuck in the dark, for isntance.

the B Guy

[blarney]

Myself as well B-guy.

Yes it is another nanny state enforcement bu the issue is their reasoning is perfect for it since it's a publicly funded road and they are protecting the public.

It's hard to change minds and I honestly don't belive you are. My reasoning is look at guys like booger. He came in here with no thoughts on the topic whatsover that were coherent. He has read over and over and at no time did you see this person clue into the conversation. The closest thing they said was that driving was a necessity. How do you even attempt reason with someone who has this little knowledge of the world around them?

Minds aren't being changed at all B, you will find people like me who agree with you and you will find others who don't. They will always be the same. Some of us need help and some of us don't. Just continue to feel good about yourself and the fact that you live a good life. Someday maybe something will happen that will actually make people wake up, but not as long as folks like the earlier mentioned ones are here to make it a mess.

This reminds me I have a great book about government interference in pdf format. If you enjoy a great read I will be happy to give my email to james so you can get it and I can send this to you.

[joco guy]

Why would police waste their time at 119th & Nall? That's the entry to Leawood. If you want to catch low lifes, that's the lowest-percentage fishing hole in the entire metro. Even if I get a ticket, I'll just pay any one of my neighborhood attorneys to take care of it.

[Tom K]

Fpgilman, it sounds like the Kansas Supreme Court is pretty worthless.

This DUI stuff punishes people who have harmed no one. They are at a somewhat greater risk of harming someone, true, but the risk isn't the deed. Even worse, drug laws are in a similar vein and punish people who didn't even take a significant risk with other people's lives.

[blarney]

The dui laws and drug laws have to do with so many other things in our society. It was okay as long as people used common sense while doing it. Suddenly people quit being responsible for themselves and started being morons, this in turn created society to create laws to control itself. If people would learn to take responsibility for themselves and deal with the problems they create for themselves we wouldn't have all these stupid laws.

I hear how it's big business but the fact is it's stupid business and we have a majority of stupid people in our society who have made it worse for all of us.

[hewhostatestheplaintruth]

If they want to get serious about getting drunks off the street, then require ALL cars to have a lockout device. Simple yet this would kill the restarant and bar industry, not to mention big brewers profits. Think their lobbyists will keep that from happening.

So instead of attacking the problem head on LE plays games, saturation and check points. Works for all sides that collect money on the scam, defense lawyers, prosecution lawyers and fine collectors alike. What a clusterf**k. It is easy to make a car not work for somebody over the limit but instead this country would rather play games.

I also have no sympathy for these MADD types that lobby for tougher sentences because they are just looking for revenge or some other closure. Again why not just make ALL cars not work when the driver is over the limit? Maybe the MADD types should direct their efforts to fight lobbyists keep this idea from being a non starter. Then they might actually being doing something

[CJA]

Saturation patrols are statistically more effective than checkpoints. Either way, we are getting closer and closer to a government state. Someone above pointed out correctly the new Martin case, in which the KS Supreme Court said that the 4th Amendment does NOT apply in administrative hearings. This means not even reasonable suspicion is a prerequisite to stopping you. And if that machine registers your BAC at .15 or more, you lost your license for 1 year plus 1 year of interlock ignition device. The legal limit used to be .15!!! What has changed so dramatically? On that note, papers please!

Dave, just so you know even if you go get a MO DL now, your privileges to drive in KS are still suspended. The state of KS does what is called a "system generated DL" for you and suspends it. So even if you have a valid license in MO or any other state, if you're suspended in KS that means you can not drive (legally) in KS at all! Just thought I would try to help you out and let you know.

[Augusto Perez]

If you think OP is bad, you should try the dying towns of Mission and Roeland Park. They're even trolling on the interstate for easy money.

[john j]

something i never understood, they say dont drink and drive, then they said No when to say when...so they are really saying, We want you to drink and drive, just not too much. Bars serve alcohol and all the patrons drive home from there. Why not say ZERO alcohol served unless you have a designated driver? It is just a game.

[St. Pat]

Blarney you need to quit eating feces. It is screwing up your already limited mentality.

You ever hear the expression "the guy is full of blarney"? Well I think most people here are full up with your bs.

Your posts are hostle, ignorant and uninformed. You go along with whatever the government tells you and love the cops no matter how corrupt they have been proven to be. And yes I think the USA police have turned into a thug society. That is too bad because I grew up admiring the police, but facts have made me change my mind, just like the hundreds of rapist priests now make me view the Catholic church with contempt. There is not one week of the year where police brutality is not reported. Get your facts straigh and your head out of your arse.

How many more people have to die from tasering or being raped by nightsticks or gunned down at bachelor parties or lady bartenders getting beat up and then threatened before you concide that things are getting a wee bit out of control. High speed chases that leave people dead supposedly to stop a car thief (when the car ends up detroyed anyway).

You are a tool and a troll. You should be a police apologist.

Now get back in the pen with the rest of the sheep. Bah, bah, bah.

Some here love the taste of jackboot.

blarney; M'good, no thanks on the pdf.

Also, official appologies for the in-the-dark comment; I strive to stay in the realm of factual statements (or as close as possible), and I failed on that.

the B Guy

[Mike]

The problem with this, well there are many, but we should be outraged. The Police are pulling you over for no reason and these dopes are saying that is ok. OP is known for generating revenue through their police department. It is a common joke you can committ any crime in OP as long as you do not speed in the get away they will not catch you. What increase in Drinking and driving accidents are they trying to prevent, I haven't heard of any increase. We are slowly losing our rights as citizens, little by little because of all these feel good methods. The police are doing this for our own good is an out right lie. Oh, I forgot it is ok for the police to lie to you, it you who can not lie to the police. Nice double standard. If the public accepts this kind of action then you have on to blame but yourself.

[2duis]

No they don't need money.... haven't you heard the rich just get richer?