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Good morning, Mr. Abbott and fellow Costellos! Since the OT is for "off topic" stuff, here's a couple of items to play with your mind:
Chicago hosted "Sexpo '08" this week. Organized by a guy named Larry Goone, it featured strippers, escorts and adult retailers. Like any convention, there were goodie bags filled with stuff. The plastic bags advertised Dr. Gregory Wiener, a Chicago plastic surgeon (save $200 off breast augmentation).
In Miami, the headlines say it all:
Well, so are old folks in Speedos or thong bikinis, but I don't hear about them being banned.Posted by: Keith G. in P.V. | Friday, September 26, 2008 at 05:27 AM
Ben & Jerry's apparently won't take up PETA's call for making ice cream from human breast milk. "We applaud PETA's creative approach to bring attention to an issue, but we also believe that a mother's milk is best used by a child," said Rob Michalak, a spokesperson at the company's corporate offices in South Burlington. So not even kiddie cones only?
Posted by: Keith G. in P.V. | Friday, September 26, 2008 at 05:42 AM
The Star's headline says, "Emotions run high as teen is sentenced" as a 17-year-old girl gets a year's probation with some conditions and $15,000 restitution. Question for James, who has nothing else to do but look up this stuff ;-) How does this compare with similar teenage driver sentences?
Joke of the day: The Star covers the divorce between St. Luke's Health System and UnitedHealthcare, including this quote from Janet Fulgham, vice president of human resources for Lenexa-based Gear for Sports:
Having dealt with UHC, I could hold my breath waiting for that to happen but I'd turn awfully blue.Posted by: Keith G. in P.V. | Friday, September 26, 2008 at 06:06 AM
Man hit by truck, then ticketed for jaywalking No word on whether the driver was ticketed.
Posted by: Keith G. in P.V. | Friday, September 26, 2008 at 06:37 AM
Good Morning Everyone!
Posted by: Searching | Friday, September 26, 2008 at 06:47 AM
Goooooooood morning, Searching! How are you this lovely morning? (I'm partly to mostly cynical, myself.)
Posted by: Keith G. in P.V. | Friday, September 26, 2008 at 06:49 AM
Good heavens! Statler and Waldorf on the upcoming debates.
Posted by: Keith G. in P.V. | Friday, September 26, 2008 at 06:53 AM
Good morning Keith, Search.
Keith - some folks talk about UHC and all the problems. I have had them for like 8 years, no problems at all. None. Am I just lucky or just not filing enough claims.
I can not see St. Luke's surviving very well without UHC. Sorry, but it will hurt their bottom line MUCH worse than UHC.
Posted by: The_Golfer | Friday, September 26, 2008 at 07:24 AM
It's Friday Keith.. I am wearing my Ok, Ok.. I am here outfit.. lets make it good and make it fast!
Posted by: Searching | Friday, September 26, 2008 at 07:31 AM
Actually, one of the things I analyze is health insurance.. and UHC is one of the least plagued with problems. When there have been problems, the results have been reported as easily solved and customer service quite reasonable.
The only real problems being chronic patients... you know too many claims coming in at once.. their set up from regular claims to claims management... you know when a nurse is assigned to negotiate costs with providers... seems to be a little slow.
Posted by: Searching | Friday, September 26, 2008 at 07:34 AM
Keith - the article, to me, shows that St. Luke's is the bad guy, they are the extremely greedy ones. IMO
Posted by: The_Golfer | Friday, September 26, 2008 at 07:37 AM
Good morning, CSKC.
10-Year-Old Girl Kicks Would-Be Offender In Groin.
Need I say more?
Posted by: JUNGLE JIM | Friday, September 26, 2008 at 07:43 AM
Field Goal!!!!
Posted by: The_Golfer | Friday, September 26, 2008 at 07:51 AM
Golfer, I've had good service and bad from UHC. And I've had good service* and bad from St. Luke's. As to who is greedy, UHC's history is replete with these struggles to re-up hospitals and medical practices. In the past months, UHC has been in dispute locally with Shawnee Mission and Liberty Hospitals, as well as St. Luke's. Are you saying the hospitals all took the same "greedy" pills? There's an easier common denominator.
UHC has a reputation (deserved?) for leading the industry in driving down compensation to providers. (They also have a reputation for generally very efficient claims handling.) I prefer good health care over payment efficiency, myself, but I'm only an insured, the least considered part of the health system equation.
*Service including but not limited to medical care. The whole "experience."
Posted by: Keith G. in P.V. | Friday, September 26, 2008 at 07:51 AM
How about "Police looking to arrest...
SJ Police want to find man exposing himself.
Posted by: JUNGLE JIM | Friday, September 26, 2008 at 07:54 AM
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Posted by: JUNGLE JIM | Friday, September 26, 2008 at 07:55 AM
Keith, Insurance Companies.. and No, I dont work for them. Are sick and tired of paying twice as much as they have to, because the illegals and indugents use the healthcare system at their will and dont pay.
So, providers jack up the price 2x + higher to compensate for nonpayment people. That really isnt fair.. medicare compensates providers for less than half of what they are asking for their services... So, insurance is left holding the bag on the high prices... can you really blame them?
Do you know the average provider only receives 38% of what they bill out? Yeah, they are going to stick it to the insurance companies that are mandated by laws and regulations in the area.
Posted by: Searching | Friday, September 26, 2008 at 07:59 AM
Missouri passed a law limitting damage awards. Doctors were leaving the state because of the outragous fees. How's that working out?
Posted by: JUNGLE JIM | Friday, September 26, 2008 at 08:02 AM
School staff failed to act on alleged sexual assault. Some Rainier Beach High School staff members seriously erred last year by failing to call police after a student alleged that she had been sexually assaulted on campus, according to a Seattle Public Schools internal investigation.
In the Rainier Beach case, the girl, who is developmentally delayed, told one of her teachers and a security officer that she'd been pulled into a boy's bathroom and sexually assaulted, but neither adult called the police nor consulted with school administrators, according to the district's investigation.
Posted by: JUNGLE JIM | Friday, September 26, 2008 at 08:04 AM
Liberty Hospital, from my one time experience there is a complete joke anyway.
But, like Search said, the hospital groups are demanding a larger piece of the pie because they are now forced to treat those without insurance. As the state run facilities are cutting back on those cases and sending them to other hospitals, mostly the ERs.
My prefered is NKC, always good, but I have seen this one taking on more under insured or no insurance patients. You can always spot them in the ER, they are the ones moaning and groaning the loudest and demanding things that have nothing to do with why they are there.
Posted by: The_Golfer | Friday, September 26, 2008 at 08:06 AM
Twin Swedish Sisters go crazy on UK motorway!
There is also video of this incident on the site as well... mmmmm Swedish Twin Sisters.... Hot.
Posted by: You're a Mean Drunk R2D2™ | Friday, September 26, 2008 at 08:08 AM
I had the state runs once. Imodium ADD cleared it tight up.
Posted by: JUNGLE JIM | Friday, September 26, 2008 at 08:10 AM
How would you like to be doused with gasoline and then have a teenage thug chase you with a lighter trying to set you on fire?
Yea, our brave lil arsonist/attempted murderer just wanted to stop the teeneager from snitching on him. Oh... He also tried to use a road flare to ignite the gasoline as well.
Posted by: You're a Mean Drunk R2D2™ | Friday, September 26, 2008 at 08:11 AM
Sometimes, failure is a good thing.
Posted by: JUNGLE JIM | Friday, September 26, 2008 at 08:14 AM
Searching, medical care is priced like new cars - sticker prices and sale prices, but with bigger discounts. And UHC doesn't cover the illegals and uninsured, so it's a non-issue for them. It's an issue for uninsured with assets.
My hemorrhoids bleed for the insurance companies. They're smarter than doctors. The know how to make more money. They're smarter than doctors. They know what treatments are appropriate. Instead of going to the doctor's office, I should go straight to my insurance provider for a consult.
Yes, those damage awards are rediculous. Until it's YOU they cut the wrong leg off of. What percentage of malpractice claims are settled in favor of the claimant?
Posted by: Keith G. in P.V. | Friday, September 26, 2008 at 08:15 AM
Former mayor of Roy accused of theft again. The former Roy mayor who was ousted last year after police discovered a felony charge from 20 years ago is once again accused of stealing.
Kim Eldridge was charged with one count of theft in the first degree Wednesday. The new court filings allege she stole money from her homeowners association before and during the time she served as a City Council member and mayor.
According to court documents, Eldridge wrote almost $11,500 in unauthorized checks from the McKenna Meadows Homeowners Association account between 2003 and 2007.
Posted by: JUNGLE JIM | Friday, September 26, 2008 at 08:16 AM
Injured people have good lawyers on their side, and so should you?
Posted by: JUNGLE JIM | Friday, September 26, 2008 at 08:18 AM
Judge gives notorious sex offender a break. Gary Eugene Cherry left the Mason County court a "freer" man than when he walked in.
He will always be listed on the state's sex offender registry, but following this unique trial, his life just got a lot easier
Posted by: JUNGLE JIM | Friday, September 26, 2008 at 08:21 AM
The police may actually be quite smart in Wichita as they place stop stick in front of her back tires as they feared she'd drive off once she was woken up by the police while sleeping at a stop light.
She did take off, only to have her back tires deflate and was arrested on suspicion of DUI.
Posted by: You're a Mean Drunk R2D2™ | Friday, September 26, 2008 at 08:22 AM
Morning all
Posted by: J | Friday, September 26, 2008 at 08:25 AM
JJ, those Swedish twins are SMOKING hot! Speaking of which, Smoky sausage nearly stops traffic at Stockholm airport. Your story has legs (and darned nice ones, at that,) while mine doesn't. Just an overheated weiner.
Posted by: Keith G. in P.V. | Friday, September 26, 2008 at 08:26 AM
That's why it's called "Kinky-naughty"...
Indecency Alleged At Public Library, Teens Targeted. A Corryville man was arrested Thursday after an incident at a Cincinnati library in which he was found within a department reserved for teenagers.
It allegedly happened around 2 p.m. at the Public Library of Cincinnati and Hamilton County Main Library on Vine Street in downtown Cincinnati.
A Hamilton County Sheriff's Deputy says he saw 21-year-old William Sutherlin with his hand down his pants committing a sex act. Sutherlin was sitting in a section of the library known as the Teen Spot, which caters to young adults.
I love the smell of fresh book-binding glue in the morning.
Posted by: JUNGLE JIM | Friday, September 26, 2008 at 08:28 AM
Eeeeeeeewe, JJ. I'm not reading anything you're publishing! LOL
Hello J and R2D2.
Posted by: Keith G. in P.V. | Friday, September 26, 2008 at 08:30 AM
They look quite reserved to me, by jove.
Posted by: JUNGLE JIM | Friday, September 26, 2008 at 08:30 AM
That's not glue.
Good morning, everybody!
Posted by: James Hart | Friday, September 26, 2008 at 08:31 AM
I only publish to the 'net. So watch your keyboard.
Posted by: JUNGLE JIM | Friday, September 26, 2008 at 08:31 AM
Keith... You know I wouldn't miss a story about twin Swedish sisters.... ;)
Posted by: You're a Mean Drunk R2D2™ | Friday, September 26, 2008 at 08:31 AM
Morning James! Whats the good word this morning?
I'm thinking.... Bailout... I'm still not for one... at all.
Posted by: You're a Mean Drunk R2D2™ | Friday, September 26, 2008 at 08:33 AM
Good morning, James! (My question this morning was purely rhetorical)
Posted by: Keith G. in P.V. | Friday, September 26, 2008 at 08:36 AM
I'd take a bailout. If I had a boat.
Posted by: JUNGLE JIM | Friday, September 26, 2008 at 08:38 AM
Keith: I'm not sure about the sentencing. I'm juggling a couple of things this morning, but if I get a free moment, will try to research.
R2: And then Washington Mutual goes under! I want things to go back to the way they were -- I don't want to have breaking news on my morning NPR update. It's very disrupting to wake up to!
Posted by: James Hart | Friday, September 26, 2008 at 08:39 AM
It's like what happened to George Bailey, without the Frank Capra.
Posted by: JUNGLE JIM | Friday, September 26, 2008 at 08:42 AM
isn't JP morgan buying out Wamu? Breaking news should only come after pancakes in the morning.... It should wait until 11:30am EST like congress rushing to the hill to work on a financial bailout. ;)
Posted by: You're a Mean Drunk R2D2™ | Friday, September 26, 2008 at 08:42 AM
Re: the Waldorf and Statler editorial ...
Sometimes, when I get a really cranky email, I imagine the person writing it is actually one of those two guys.
Posted by: James Hart | Friday, September 26, 2008 at 08:43 AM
I hope the Royals lay an egg this weekend to help out the Twins.
Posted by: J | Friday, September 26, 2008 at 08:43 AM
Teacher On Bond After Cocaine Arrest
MADISON, Wis. -- A second-grade teacher in Walworth County is free on bond after a cocaine arrest on school grounds.
Katie Lussenhop, 25, appeared in court on charges of possessing cocaine in Walworth Elementary School's parking lot.
She is free on a $5,000 signature bond.
The school administrator said the school does intensive background checks on all of its employees.
Mugshot here.
Posted by: JUNGLE JIM | Friday, September 26, 2008 at 08:45 AM
J: Wait -- is there some "postseason" competition? I wouldn't know. The Royals never end up there.
R2: Yep, JP Morgan is buying them out.
Posted by: James Hart | Friday, September 26, 2008 at 08:47 AM
Plop plop, fizz fizz...
Man relieves self at bus transfer station
Posted by: JUNGLE JIM | Friday, September 26, 2008 at 08:47 AM
They always seem to play bad in Minneapolis, so...
But they do have one of the best September records this year...
Posted by: The_Golfer | Friday, September 26, 2008 at 08:48 AM
Oh man.... I just read on the wash post about how Palin has stated "Mission Accomplished" in Iraq.... *facepalm*
Posted by: You're a Mean Drunk R2D2™ | Friday, September 26, 2008 at 08:50 AM