Where is Renee Pernice?

Police, family and friends plan to search an open area near the missing woman's house sometime today, KSHB reports. And there's going to be a prayer vigil in her name:

There will be a prayer vigil held for Renee on Monday, Jan. 12 7 p.m. at Mill Creek Park on the corner of 47th and JC Nichols Parkway.

Meanwhile, police still haven't given up custody of the family's home, as crime-scene technicians are still reviewing everything they pulled from the place, KCPD reports.

Comments

[The Golfer]

This just keeps getting stranger and stranger.

Our own Drew Peterson.

[winkyb2me]

Yeah, and he only lives a half-mile from me. I really appreciated the helicopters outside my bedroom window Friday afternoon. Talk about a rude awakening ...

[winkyb2me]

Actually, one of the detectives was in Quik Trip Sunday morning. Although she really didn't say much, she definitely left the impression that the cops think he killed her.

[AllnADaysWork]

Heck, not only the cops but the community thinks he killed her as well. He killed her! Most often times the spouse is responsible when the other spouse just drops off the face of the earth. The cops need to start checking landfills. He put her out with the trash and then tried to stage the crime. We've heard that story before.

[Neighborhood concern]

This whole story is crazy, we live about 3 blocks from their home and we woke up this morning to 20 people searching through our yard and the woods that we back up to. The impression everyone in the neighborhood has is that she was killed, but who knows. Terrible thing.

[Mike in S.C.]

I am completely shocked. I grew up with Shon, as we attended St. Charles school together, and also went to New Mark Middle School together many years ago. We haven't been in contact for over 15 years, and I got the news via phone from my mom in Gladstone yesterday. What the articles don't tell you about Shon, is that prior to being a reservist, he was originally a SEAL (early to mid 1990's).

[TGIRecovered]

sorry to be the one to break it to you, Mike in S.C., but according to reports, the S.E.A.L. story was just a lie Shon told to get women in bars. He apparently had fake medals to go with it.

[blarneology]

I've been searching since folks started runnning Shon into the ground with stories about him being a liar etc. I'm not seeing anything that substantiates these negative stories about him. I wonder how much is just heresay and venom from folks who like to just bash other folks.

[Mike in S.C.]

In response to TGIRecovered, my parents sent me a clip out at sea from the Gladstone Post Dispatch in 1998 or 1999, which updates local military members, and since they had known Shon as well (from time when we went to school together), they sent it to me, and it stated that he had been promoted to Petty Officer first class, and even gave the SEAL team he was assigned to. I'll have to dig through my stuff at home and see if I can find that article. Shon got in trouble with his mom (parents?) his 8th grade year when we were at New Mark Middle School together, so he didn't attend Oak Park (1987). He was sent to Wentworth (I think) Military academy. I next ran into him in 1992 as he was back in town on leave from the Navy. I wasn't sure if I believed him until I got the Dispatch clipping from my mom years later, as Shon was always fixated with the military. As a kid, Shon did have some tall tales (not sure, could never prove one way or antoher), including being the half brother of pro golfer Tom Pernice, JR. and having extensive family ties to KC organized crime families.

[military]

What does his military career-accomplishments have directly to do with the situation? What does his family relations? Yes, his cousin is Tom Pernice Jr the PGA golfer. Organized crime, yes, in the 70's and 80's he had an uncle involved in the River Query bombings for mob control. Who cares?
A mother/wife is missing. Has it ever happened before? Has "lost" people turned up alive because of stress or what have you? Until I see proof....it is unknown and can only be assumed of the whereabouts. If I was him, I would be more concerned for trying to maintain some normalcy for the kids, not trying to find something in a ditch. What a lasting impression that would be. It is sad to see this as a recovery phase, as it always has been.

blarneology, why would people bash Shon just because they like to bash people? If that were their goal, they could bash Renee. But no one is bashing Renee. Why? Because people who know Renee and Shon and know their characters know that most likely Shon killed Renee. Even his friend from SC admits Shon told "tall tales" when he was young. Looks like that continued into adulthood. People who have been associated with Shon have posted their experiences, and it doesn't look good.

Mike in S.C. - I don't know if the Navy Seal stuff is true, but I do know that newspapers sometimes just print what you tell them when they interview you, so it's quite possible that Shon could have told them he was promoted and even given them a unit # and they wouldn't necessarily verify it; probably wouldn't think he was lying about it.

Sounds like Shon has been a bad egg his whole life.

[Searching]

because you are all trying him in the wrong court .. the court of public opinion.. I still havent seen anything that says this guy is guilty.. yeah he was in the military, perhaps obsessed with it. We have only some noname poster that says he was obsessed with death..

the police.. no one has come forth with charges or proof this guy did anything. I am not even saying he didnt.. but I am not going to say he did, until I see more.

Even my husband was saying he was guilty as they showed footage and were saying they removed military style weapons from his house and an empty grenade.... YEAH, he was in the MILITARY... I need more!

[duh]

Here are a list of very legit reasons why people feel the husband is guilty.

1. He needed a "quiet evening alone" and left the kids the night of Jan 1st with the neighbor to baby-sit. When the kids returned the next morning, she was already "missing."

2. He is NOT reaching out to the media to reach out to her, or her kidnapper, etc.

3. He is not taking calls from nor calling back anyone from her side of the family.

4. He has not helped in the search, even though the kids are in school.

5. The large amounts of "evidence" recovered from the home.

There are many more reasons of suspecion.

[Ambiliant]

Has anyone really been stressed? Runaway bride? A mother in Texas drive a car into a lake? There are contless examples. Yes, this guy is odd, weapons, response, but weird is subjective.
Based on the places the couples find refuge, I would start in St Augustine FL. If she needs a break, why would he tell anyone? She changed jobs often and her current reviews from students, where she worked, were unfavorable. If no crime has been commited, give them a break.

[izabella]

Dear, dear, Ambiliant, You don't know what you are talking about. She had characteristics that were very favorable. I personally worked with her for 6 years, did you? Her students never wrote anything bad about her. She was quiet, never raised her voice to anyone. She did however have characteristics of a battered and abused woman. She personally would tell me of weird, psychotic events he played on her and video them. Humiliating, mental and physical abuse. She tried to get him to leave and he told her, "i'll kill you before i leave." Oh yea, great guy.......

[blarneology]

"blarneology, why would people bash Shon just because they like to bash people? If that were their goal, they could bash Renee. But no one is bashing Renee. Why? Because people who know Renee and Shon and know their characters know that most likely Shon killed Renee. Even his friend from SC admits Shon told "tall tales" when he was young. Looks like that continued into adulthood. People who have been associated with Shon have posted their experiences, and it doesn't look good."

Because for the most part you guys are sheep without a new or individual thought and sometimes even coherent thought in your collective heads. It's good to have a victime when trying to bash someone and it saves you from feeling some kind of remorse from bashing her if she actually turns up dead. No remorse if Shon actually turns out to be innocent which is why people are being critical of his actions though they appear to be not really out of the ordinary for high stress. Some nobody on an internet message board saying he told tall tales as a kid is laughable but not that they said it but that you believe it. LOL! You just prove that your desire to believe anything bad about this guy is your motive in order to prove he's the bad apple. Keep up the good work.

I don't know if Shon has been a bad egg for a long time but you are definitely gullible and laughable for trying to come across as rational or even thinking. You are believing anything told to you on an anonymous blog. BWAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA.

[blarneology]

Duh, weak post very weak. Your reasons for his being guilty are at worst just him not wanting to mess with douchebags.

Family accuses him of crimes yet he should talk to them?

He should be reaching out in the media? What kind of hogwash is that. Not everyone is a drama queen using a bad moment for their 15minutes of fame.

He should not be helping with the search, only people trained in this should be involved.

What large amount of evidence gotten from the home? They haven't listed any evidence.

Duh, is a good name for you.

[blarneology]

"Dear, dear, Ambiliant, You don't know what you are talking about. She had characteristics that were very favorable. I personally worked with her for 6 years, did you? Her students never wrote anything bad about her. She was quiet, never raised her voice to anyone. She did however have characteristics of a battered and abused woman. She personally would tell me of weird, psychotic events he played on her and video them. Humiliating, mental and physical abuse. She tried to get him to leave and he told her, "i'll kill you before i leave." Oh yea, great guy....... "

more hoopla from another anonymous poster.

I heard she was a real ho, always out trolling for a new guy to give her 10bux and then she would do anything they asked.

[duramater]

You know, it's people like you who get on these websites and say all this negative stuff that interferes with the actual search and rescue!!!! I applaud those of you keeping a neutral standpoint, as that's how it should be. But all the bashing and finger pointing???? Have any of you that are doing that done anything else to really find out what's going on, or have you just been sitting on the computer running your mouths all day???? If you're so sure you know what happened, then get your butts out there and do something about it!!!

We live just three blocks from the Pernice family, have never met them before this incident, but we got our butts up this morning, threw on our clothes, and headed on over to the woods to help with the field search. We had an opportunity to meet Renee's mother, and even gave her a ride back to the starting point when we came out fo the woods on the complete other side. I could tell very easily this is NOT easy on the family, so if you're so inclined to be so involved, get off your butts and get out there and help out!!!! THEN, and ONLY then, if something is found, do you have the right to start pointing fingers and doing so much bashing!!!!

Dear blarneology, you aparently didn't know anything about renee. She deffinately wasn't a "ho". I can't even believe that you would write that about her. How do you think that she would even have time to be that way when she works and is taking care of her children. If you are going to make up stuff then you should probably make up something that people might actually believe!!!!

[blarneology]

"Dear blarneology, you aparently didn't know anything about renee. She deffinately wasn't a "ho". I can't even believe that you would write that about her. How do you think that she would even have time to be that way when she works and is taking care of her children. If you are going to make up stuff then you should probably make up something that people might actually believe!!!!"

YOu obviously missed the point of that statement, not that it's a suprise.

I guess I'm hot as good at making stuff up as you. Thanks for the tip and for proving my point.

You guys are about as sharp as a bowling ball.

[duramater]

blarneology, you sure are lonely today, aren't you???? How can you sit and say the point wasn't gotten???? We all can read it loud and clear, you said she was a ho and would do anything for 10 bucks. Ummmmm, what other point that isn't derogatory could there be in a statement like that? Sorry, but the way you're talking is sounding like a person who had personal connections and vindettas against Renee would talk. Hmmmm, I believe people like that are often found to be suspects. Maybe you should shut your trap for your own good.

[blarneology]

dumbamater, like I said you just missed it. It's okay i'm sure the folks with an iq of room temp or higher will get it.

I'm also only posted once actually talking about her dumbamater so before talking about how I post maybe you should pull your head out of your butt. It's okay for people to think you are a fool, it's totally different when you confirm it. Which you just did.

blarneology, you are full of it. You are spouting nothing but garbage to get off on it. Please don't forget to change the sheets.

Blarneology, you like to spout garbage to get off. Please don't forget to change the sheets.

[Blarneology's Mother]

Blarneology, you like to talk garbage to make people made to get off on it. Please don't forget to change the sheets. It hard to get the stains out if they have been sitting for a while.

[duramater]

blarneology, I seriously think you need a loving hug!!!! Regardless of your opinion of my IQ, it's obvious mine is higher than yours, or at the very least, put to better use than yours. How is that confirmed, you might ask? Well, for one, I apparently know the law better than you do, as I abide and follow the "innoncent until proven guilty" law, and I'm smart enough not to say things that could implicate myself in a crime, which you are doing of yourself. I'm not saying you did it, but the more you blab, the more you become suspicious. Why else would someone have such negative things to say about Renee, if they weren't somehow happy or involved towards her disappearance?

By the way, just for the record, we own and run two successful family businesses, and our family consists of an attorney, a doctor, and a nurse, just to name a few. I don't think I call that being stupid....it takes intelligence and skill to make it in those fields of life. Now, shooting off at the mouth like you're doing, well, that doesn't take any skill at all!!!!

[blarneology]

"Blarneology, you like to talk garbage to make people made to get off on it. Please don't forget to change the sheets. It hard to get the stains out if they have been sitting for a while. "

Sorry I'm not good at reading gibberish. Let me know when you learn English.

[blarneology]

dumbmater, if I've implicated myself in a crime then you tell James so he can let the police know. If that doesn't happen you just confirmed my earlier judgement of you.

I doubt if your family is like you that you guys can get dressed without help. I'm totally convinced you are on the losing end of inbreeding.

[duramater]

blarneology, you are just a waste of a breath, and I don't care to bother with you anymore. You bore me, and personally, I can see you are getting pleasure out of myself and others even responding to you. So, since I don't care to pleasure some internet weirdo freak, I'm going to find better things to do with my evening. I certainly hope you won't be too bored now that all your fun has been taken away. Oh, and I do hope you get that sympathetic hug you so obviously need to better your day, and maybe even your entire week. TaTa, loser!!!!

[sad]

From reading these blogs one can tell the difference between people who knew Shon and Renee personally, and those who are individuals who really do not know what it's like to go through something like this.
I too knew Shon in the 90's when he was living in Ozanam Boys Home. He left for the Navy in 91 and was very into the miltary life.
He told many tall tales, but those who knew him blew it off. We kind of felt sorry for him, but deep down he seemed like a nice guy.
He was troubled, and the miltary and the wars truly got to him.
The Shon I knew would not kill his wife, and he WOULD step up and try to find her. But, things are not adding up now...
The best thing we can do is pray, and know that peace will come soon.

[duramater]

sad, I agree with you. I don't think that just because Shon told tall tales that means he's a murderer, of that because Renee had someone from work that didn't like her, that means she's the one who ran off on her own, etc. People are just pointing fingers with no regard to how it affects the investigative case, or the family.

We don't even know them, and chose to volunteer for the field search today. Although I was totally paranoid I'd find something that would scar me for life, I still chose to do it, because I couldn't imagine being in that situation with my family. I'd want nearby neighbors to show their support to me, too, so I felt it necessary. I just hope and pray some answers are found soon, if anything, to at least ease the minds of the family, including Shon.

[Kuuipo]

If Renee had left home on her own account, I am inclined to believe that she would have a) taken her car with her, b) taken her cell phone and charger with her, c) taken her purse with her, and d) taken some money with her and/or visited an ATM shortly after leaving. She would also have taken her children with her or dropped them off with one of HER friends and family. A mother doesn't just walk away from home with nothing and without telling anyone where she is going.

Granted we don't yet know what all the facts in this case are. But Shon was the last one to see her alive and his behavior has been suspicious.

[Kuuipo]

If Renee had left home on her own account, I am inclined to believe that she would have a) taken her car with her, b) taken her cell phone and charger with her, c) taken her purse with her, and d) taken some money with her and/or visited an ATM shortly after leaving. She would also have taken her children with her or dropped them off with one of HER friends and family. A mother doesn't just walk away from home with nothing and without telling anyone where she is going.

Granted we don't yet know what all the facts in this case are. But Shon was the last one to see her alive and his behavior has been suspicious.

[sad]

I agree with the recent posts. And I admire everyone who joined the search today.
We need a lot of proof on both sides. We need proof that Shon is guilty, just as much as we need LOTS of proof that he is innocent.
I do not want to believe that Shon is guilty. The Shon I knew would have been leading the searc when she was reported missing. He would have called in every connection he had possible to find the MOTHER of his CHILDREN! He would have set aside the negative issues he had with her and her family, and acted as the trained soldier he is/was. The soldier who was trained to serve and protect.
I agree, if Renee left on her own, she would have taken the kids. She would reach out to her parents. It would not be going this way.

dumbamaster, you are most likely just a waste of what should have been a good time. I bet mommy and daddy still regret not pulling out.

Too bad your big talk about me being a suspect blah blah blah blew up in your face. I knew you would back out when you couldn't back up your idiot talking.

[Blarneology II]

Blarneology -

Your point aside, Do you have any experiences with Shon and/or Renee? You seem to be very concerned with unsubstantiated negative reports about Shon to the point that you throw tact out the window and attempt to make your point by making a horrible claim about the victim.

I think ultimately you miss the bigger picture. Shon has apparently done and said some things in the past that consistently keep coming up with those that DO have personal experiences with Shon and Renee. If you are taking a wait and see attitude as you have claimed in other posts then you shouldn’t dismiss anything from either side. Instead what you have consistently done is dismiss everything negative about Shon and criticize those that share their experiences when they are not pro Shon even to the point of making accusations against Renee. This does not come across as impartial. In fact is seems Blarneology doth protest too much.

”He should not be helping with the search, only people trained in this should be involved.“

The search today was directed by the KCPD. Apparently they would disagree with this statement.

And why do you keep commenting on anonymity of the posters? Aren’t you anonymous as well?

Your childish name calling and little rants are entertaining though. I wonder if these tactics of yours actually help those that are truly unbiased and just curious. I have to admit you are definitely the other end of the pendulum on this topic. Most of the posters are so far to the right you must feel the need to swing so far the other way just to counter balance.

[sad]

Could we please keep the focus of this blog on what really matters? Please have a little sensitivity for Renee and her family.
I am curious about the person who said: "Shon got in trouble with his mom (parents?) his 8th grade year.." Do you know why? He never told us why he was sent away from home.

[blarneology]

Sad, these douchebags are just spreading rumors about a person nothing more. There is nothing to say this person did anything wrong at this point and the smart people will be willing to wait to find out. If you knew him or know him than you should know to not get involved in that crap and wait till more information is shared from the people who are investigating this.

[blarneology]

Blarneology II, you are such a complete loser that you have to use another persons name, very sad very very sad. You can also see that I wasn't the one who started the name calling but most likely you are just too stupid.

[Concerned]

blarneology sounds like a real loser. Don't feed the trolls.

And why not call the tall tales for what they are? Lies. From many accounts, he was a liar.

Also, he was not a navy Seal. You can look that up yourself online. Another lie. And what kind of person tries to paint a false image that they're a seal? There's lies and then there's lies.

I think "blarneology" is either Shon or his mother.

I think the police will be interested in the IP address of the people posting pro Shon. I suspect "blarneology" is Shon himself, or his mother. Could be entered as evidence.

[blarneology]

Concerned, you are such a low piece of work. All many of you are doing right now is bashing a man whose wife is missing. You have no idea about him or anything else beyond the story itself yet you like to play judge jury and excutioner because of what you have read on a blog. Yup many of you are real low pieces of work. Not even having the ability to wait for the whole story before trying to blame someone. Pathetic many of you are.

James has my ip address and the weak attempts to make threats about who I am or what I may have done are just as pathetic. Not suprised from folks like concerned though. You guys just don't handle having to deal with common sense very well.

Maybe when one of your loved one turns up missing all these morons can get on here and start talking trash on you and trying to say you are guilty of it without knowing.

[blarneology]

Maybe the police will be interested in the people who are posting bad stuff about Shon. You know how someone guilty likes to try to deflect blame to anyone but themselves. Seems to me some of you are pretty busy trying to make sure blame goes anywhere but towards you.

[TJ]

I was in Ozanam Home for Boys with a Shon Pernice that said he was going into the NAVY. That was late 80's. I wonder if this is the same person? Anyone know?

[sad]

Yes, there were tall tales, but to clarify, Shon was in fact a Navy Seal in 1991 and even served in the Iraq war in 93. I knew him well during that time. I lost touch with him after 94.

[Mike in S.C.]

I wanted to clarify what I wrote earlier on this blog. I wasn't trying to implicate Shon as guilty because of what I wrote about the Shon I knew back when we were kids. I was more looking to see if anyone could verify the stories Shon told me as being truth or not, as I was never sure if they were one way or the other. Shon was the first "best friend" I had starting back in the third grade when we attended St. Charles not far from where he is living now. He moved away suddenly in 4th or 5th grade, and then our paths crossed again when we both ended up at New Mark Middle School together in 8th grade. We seemed to get into trouble together, like in 3rd grade when we snuck out of our school picnic at Macken Park and walked a few blocks to an Army-Navy surplus store and bought some army pendants. Never any serious trouble though (nothing destructive or violent). He left very abruptly from 8th grade (1987), and I never found out the reason why, but heard he had been sent to a military/boarding school by his mom. The next and last time I seen him was when he showed up in 1992 at the grocery store I was working at (part time job - I was home from college), and he was wearing his dress blues, and had his SEAL pin on it. We only talked a few minutes, and he talked about being a SEAL and the training and he said he was home on leave, and getting ready to go back. He seemed way more serious than when we're kids and like he had his act together (matured a lot). That's the last I seen or heard from Shon, so I really don't know Shon past 1987 I'd say. Nothing from the early years of knowing Shon would suggest he would be capable of murder (tall tales or not). Since me and Shon drifted apart, I practically know nothing of him past the end of middle school, and so obviously don't know Renee at all. From an outsiders perspective, as I live in South Carolina now and have a wife and 2 young boys of my own, I'd love nothing more than to see this all work out for the best for everyone (the need to get away scenario on Renee's part, or something similar with no tragedy involved). Given what is known, however, that isn't likely, since she left with no car, her cell phone was found miles away, nothing in any of the stories suggests she packed anything to take with her, etc.. Although the spouse is going to be the most probable suspect in these cases, and the appearence of Shon's actions are suspect, we do have a system of innocence until proven guilty, and I don't like to judge those "questionable" actions of Shon, as who knows how any of us would respond if faced with the same dramatic events (assuming innocence of course). For those who want to convict him already, assuming he is completely innocent, he would know himself that circumstances and actions appear way against him at this point, which would explain the lawyer(s). He also knows (once again this argument assumes that he is innocent) that in the court of public opinion of many, he is already guilty, so him joining in the search could create more drama than good (even be used against him later), and he may deem that he would serve a more important role in being there for his 3 children. I am not saying I believe one way or the other, but for those who have their minds made up already, assume he is innocent, and then realize that if you were in this spot (and innocent of course), how would you react? It is a rhetorical question, as you can't know for sure how you would respond (and hopefully will never have to), but worth thinking about. I greatly admire those who joined in the search, and I would have done everything to help as well if I were back in KC and able to do so. It is still a posibility she was abducted, and could very well still be alive. Look at the Elizabeth Smart case - who would have thought that one ended up as it did, as all likely scenario's ended up not being close to the actual outcome. Until the police state otherwise, based off of evidence they find in the coming days or facts they uncover, this is still a missing persons case and not a recovery case. As always, the children suffer the biggest loss in these cases (as well as the victims family). It angers me greatly to see people talking very negatively about Renee or Shon, and then get into sparring matches with each other. Part of the reason I posted (and probably sounded like an idiot) I think was speaking out my own thoughts in trying to recall what I knew in the past from my friendship with Shon, and trying to make sense of it all. Please stop the bickering and negativity, and at a minimum, stop from the personal attacks. Assuming Shon is innocent (or perhaps even if not), how much do you think he would like to read some of the stuff that is written in the above posts about his wife? Have some respect and decency for everyone involved in this, especially the family and children of Renee.

[sad]

AMEN to Mike in S.C. I too was a good friend of Shon's, and I am trying to figure out how to process all of this. We were friends in the early 90's, after you lost touch it seems. Do you have any idea why he was sent away in 87? I just wonder if it was typical teenage stuff.
It sickens me that people waste time on these blogs attacking each other and the Penince family.
We all want this to be over, and we all want answers. But, negativity and disrespect will not help anyone.
Mike in S.C. I hope you and I can discuss this more. This is really zapping me emotionally and mentally. It helps to see someone on here who truly knew Shon too, and has respect and sensitivity towards everyone involved.
Peace to you,
Sad