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July 21, 2007

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Mike Royce

But... wait just a minute, mister.

I love Friday Night Lights and think it was a travesty to not be nominated for an Emmy. But you can't really claim justice when it wins Outstanding NEW Program, a category the Emmys doesn't have.

Without that loophole, you guys wouldn't have recognized Friday Night Lights either.

Mary

Yeah, I kind of agree with Mike. I'm glad that FNL won something, but it should have been the one that Heroes got, or maybe the Sopranos should have received that one and FNL should have received the one that the Sopranos ended up with.

Honestly, I don't think Heroes should have won any of the awards. I like it and all, but it's not that great of a show.

I can see where Kyle Chandler and Connie Britton kind of canceled each other out, and I've heard the Michael C. Hall was great on Dexter so I'm not too upset about that.

Aaron

Hm. So you're saying that you like the Emmys better because they DON'T have a new program category. You're happy that Gilmore Girls never got an Emmy nomination, whereas in 1999 they almost certainly would have contended for a best new show honor given the field that year.

You wouldn't want the Emmys to get five new shows every year into the mix, which would almost certainly raise their profiles at a time when they are most vulnerable to cancellation?

You really think, Mike, if you were working on "Everybody Loves Raymond" that year — an obscure, Friday-night CBS comedy that the network chief was not exactly in love with at the time — you really think you guys wouldn't have loved to be nominated for Best New Show by the ATAS?

Are you kiddin' me?

Mike Royce

I'm definitely not saying I like the Emmys better. I just think you're comparing apples and oranges. If ATAS had given Best Drama to FNL, that would be the direct comparison, and one in which you could rightly claim "independence."

For Michael C. Hall, it is a proper comparison.

By the way... no "The Wire" in either?

I definitely think the Emmys should have a "Outstanding New Program" category for the exact reasons you outline.

Aaron Barnhart

I always vote for "The Wire," and I never feel like I'm alone when I do that, so who knows. I'd like to think it got beat by a nose at ... the wire.

My larger point is that for all those guild-pleasing categories ATAS has, so many awards that it has to schedule a second night, not having a best-new-show category is a strange omission.

Friday Night Lights is nominated for not one, but TWO emmys this year: Best Casting for a Drama Series, and more importantly, its pilot episode is nominated for Best Directing for a Drama Series, an award that is actually awarded on the FOX telecast.

Aaron

Correction made, and thank you.

And as long as we're counting:

Emmy nominations for "The Wire": 1
Outstanding Writing For A Drama Series - 2005

TCA nominations for "The Wire": 6
Program of the Year - 2007
Outstanding Achievement in Drama - 2007
Outstanding Achievement in Drama - 2004
Program of the Year - 2003
Outstanding New Program - 2003
Outstanding Achievement in Drama - 2003

Not sure why we didn't nominate season three for anything. Wasn't because of me. But the fact we left "The Wire" at the altar six times might be additional validation of the fact that the show didn't completely connect with audiences, including my peers. My gut tells me we'll get it right next year.

Dave

Let's REALLY look at this...

30 Rock?

Which CLIP?

It surely wasn't nominated for an EPISODE!

30 ROCK - this year's "JOEY" tested well and they -NBC - sent clips to the TCA and they nominated it.

(Apparently we are only getting a clip from Dave. --AB)

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