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August 27, 2007

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To be fair, I wouldn't put Air America and Keith Olbermann in the same group as...Charlie Gibson and Brian Williams...

But I wouldn't say Brian Williams and Charlie Gibson are conservative lackeys, either.

Aaron

Let's not have the Mac-PC debate here, OK, please? I'll clear the room if I have to ...

I've always believed that Fox News, Rush Limbaugh and those types spoke to an underlying distrust of establishment media that's existed approximately forever. I grew up around it and, obviously, given my undergraduate journalism choices, I shared those views somewhat. But now that the alternative is in the mainstream, they don't always know how to behave. So you hear things about liberals running everything, which isn't true, and you hear liberals trotting out Fox News as a sign that conservatives have the whole media by the short hairs, also not true.

And as we all know, we are all extremely effective on the interwebs in persuading others to see things our way.

tom heald

lets see... Keith on NBC ... 4 million viewers ... BillO on FNC average 2 million viewers. I'm no math genius ....

tom heald

I would say the Bush administration with the help of FNC has done all it can to ensure people don't trust any media, from Jeff Gannon in the White House press room, and columnists Armstrong Williams and Maggie Gallagher being paid to pimp the govt's schemes. FNC's balance is a clever scam of claiming to give the other side a voice, albeit via weak spokespeople and/or filtering the left's voice by reframining it.

K.O. is Great!! Long may his show reign.

Mike

TO: ebi:

PLEASE give me ONE, just ONE, guests that Olbernmahn has ever had on that disagrees with him! Juts ONE, ebi!!

The 4 million dollar man may be NBC's biggest waste of money in years. His MSNBC show usually finishes in FOURTH place. Sunday's "show" also finished in...yep, FOURTH PLACE...as usual.

My advice to Olby is: 1) Stop the bashing of Bill O and Limbaugh. All this does is give these guys MORE PUBLICITY especially O Reilly whose 4 AM RERUNS (ye, I'll say it again...RERUNS!) always trounce the HOUR OF SPIN!! And, even more disturbing I'm sure to comedian KO, even Nancy Grace's (yes, I'm talking about THE Nancy Grace!) 10 PM RERUN usually beats Olby in his coveted demos!

When will NBC wise up and dump him and replace him with equally obnoxious Rosie?????

Tom Heald's bizarre comment about "Olbermann got 4 million viewers, O'Reilly has 2 million viewers!" is actually made me laugh out loud. Considering that NBC is available in at least 2.5 times more homes than FNC, and that you could put 2 crickets getting it on for an hour and get 4 million viewers on a network...I don't think I would trumpet Olbermann's Sunday ratings. It doesn't make you look very smart.

I thought this site had moderately intelligent readers....I guess I was wrong.

I always thought the "Worst person in the world" segment was utilizing hyperbole to make a point or be funny. Collinsworth, as much as I like him, doesn't seem like a guy who has much appreciation for satire, irony or hyperbole. Olberman would have served himself well by being on the air the week earlier so he didn't overthink the show and just followed his groove.
I don't read the Kos people are talking about but I suspect Olberman will still have a show under a democratic administration and will still have opinions.
I did think what little I saw of the Sunday show that it was putting on too much of the America's Funniest Videos stuff.

Kyle Bird

Tom Heald made the comment about O'Reilly vs. Olbermann because he's so desperate to see Olbermann beat O'Reilly somehow, even if the comparison is ridiculously dishonest. Of course, Heald is another bitter, dishonest, hateful left winger. Then again, so is Aaron, who is so threatened by Cris Collinsworth questioning Olbermann's bile. That's the left wing for you - out to silence or ridicule anyone who disagrees with them. And, BTW, I have worked at three separate media enterprises in my career, and my collegues were overwhelmingly Democrats in each of those jobs. There is a left-wing bias in newspapers and TV, just the same way there is a right-wing bias in talk radio. Anyone who thinks otherwise is either dishonest, or just has his head in the sand.

Mark Jeffries

Kyle:

Why is Tom "another bitter, dishonest, hateful left winger?" Why are "left wingers" bitter, dishonest and hateful? And please use your own words instead of copying-and-pasting from newsmax.com or Rush Vicodin's web site.

Oh--Tom's gay (and that's no big secret to anyone at tvbarn2). I bet you hate him even more now.

Aaron

Anyway.

Whoever said NBC has two and a half times the distribution of Fox is not only wrong, but wildly, fantastically, in-your-dreams wrong.

Fox is available in virtually all TV households with cable or satellite, meaning 85 percent of them. NBC is in 99 percent of homes.

For late summer Olbermann got a very respectable number on the network. Nothing huge, nothing terrible. He didn't make O'Reilly's mistake when Fox put him in prime time of overpromising and underdelivering. Smart move.

The big story is cable, where he is the NO. 1 personality on MSNBC (Imus who?), No. 2 in his time period and continuing to gain on O'Reilly in demographics. KO could conceivably overtake Bill-O in demos someday, and if he does, trust me, we'll hear about it.

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