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June 19, 2008

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Bill G

Aaron, thanks for the shout out. I think the real question about Countdown ratings is if Olbermann can sustain his surge past the general election when the appetite for politics & ideology is likely to cool considerably.

His increase that we show in our long term chart is considerable, but we've only got charted data back to Nov 2007, so almost our entire period was during the heat of the Democratic primary battles.

Murmaster

How can Olbermann last when he interviews the same three guests everynight? Milbank, Maddow, Alter, Wolffe. Olbermann says, "Thanks for your input folks, and for agreeing with me for the last four years." Olbermann is an intellectual coward.

(One, two, three .... four. But your point's well taken.--AB)

Jason S

Sorry, Aaron, I'm going to have to disagree about Rachel Maddow. I watched last night's Countdown and had to turn it off in the middle. I would at least like some pretense that the show is about news and not just about partisan axe-grinding, but the Maddow segments seem to be little more than liberal versions of the same knee-jerk, fact-free crud you see and hear on conservative outlets. Maddow's "pedigree" from Air America doesn't help matters on that score, either.

If Keith wants "Countdown" to literally be "O'Reilly Factor" from the other side of the aisle, I guess that's fine -- but I don't want to watch it. I love "Countdown" when it's news, but when it devolves into one big liberal conspiracy-fest, even I get turned off.

Jason

Hi Aaron,
When it comes to Keith, its all about guilty pleasure for me. Actually, I usually watch Keith's repeat at 9 then flip to Bill-O at 10 for the other side. That's real fair and balanced. ;)But seriously, please lay off on how wonderful MSNBC has been. I mean how much politics can one person take in a day? Eventually this stuff will wear thin. I have a feeling by about September that it will become pretty clear that Obama will win this thing and people will simply stop watching. The real question is how in the hell is MSNBC going to fill their hours of the day? Oh, I already know. Its those wretched documentaries that are nothing more than old Dateline eps repackaged. At least they could bring back the pervs on To Catch a Predator for us to laugh at. ;)

I actually really like MSNBC when its not politics but this year with their Obama-mania non-stop coverage, they're starting to look like the deranged gunman going after their prey (Fox) while Fox just sits back and waits for the political season to finish so they can go back to winning all 5 nights of the week instead of just 4.

Keith has a nasty adjustment ahead but I do believe he'll weather it successfully. He is the left's O'Reilly (although much less confrontational- I wish he would start getting people with different views on that show more so we could get some good youtube videos out of the deal).

Finally, I actually think there is more to advertising on cable news than 25-54 because so many viewers aren't that age. I mean come on, those ads for the Villages in Florida and Gospel favorites I see nightly aren't targeted at me. :)
Take care,
Jason

Scott

Some people have already touched upon the one glaring weakness of "Countdown" - Olbermann's refusal to interview people who fundamentally disagree with him. Some of the conservative talkers have stated they would debate Olbermann in a New York minute, either on "Countdown" or their show, but Olbermann refuses to debate. There are also the examples of ignoring Democrat-related scandals, twisting of quotes, and just plain hypocrisy.

And speaking of Rory O'Connor's book about "hate radio", does Rory think that Randi Rhodes and Mike Malloy are examples of left-wing hate radio? Some of the things that those two yakkers have said on the air are really discustiung.

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