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August 07, 2008

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wyatt

Why isn't Edwards suing the NE? Why hasn't he vigorously, publicly denied the allegations? Why has the NYT ("newspaper of record" (!?)) reported this? This is way bigger than pretty much any scandal involving top political peeps in the last several years, and I have to do a google news search to find stories on it, and read the Wikipedia talk pages?! I have faith that this story will eventually come out, but the way Edwards, the MSM, Kos, etc. have played this is not going to be good for Obama and the party. Big huge, could-have-been-prevented distraction from the real issues.

ran

It's his business, but not for long. The courts will be asking John Edwards soon about his new love child. John Edwards is an adulterer. He should not have to tell anyone about it. It's his business...of course, it's only a matter of time before Rielle Hunter goes to court for a child support settlement. That will be public record. Then, Elizabeth Edwards will also want a divorce settlement. Then again, John Edwards made his close friend claim to be the impregnator of Rielle Hunter. John Edwards' friend, who has a family, has forever ruined his reputation in a desperate bid to save John Edwards. Of course, if John Edwards was the VP, then he'd be blackmailed because they're obviously other people who have evidence of his cheating. Then, again, how long has John Edwards been cheating on his wife with other women? Lastly, John Edwards has totally humiliated his dying wife and his poor children, who will forever be defined by their father's lust. Wow, maybe John Edwards needs to drop out of politics. He's just not a very good role model for being a father or a husband. What a way to fall from grace!!!

alicia

Wow. That is a very thought-provoking column, Mr. Barnhart, which presents a number of serious issues to consider.

As you point out, Elizabeth Edwards, as a very high-profile member of a very high-profile team, is also a public figure. And she has become a player in attempting to guide and bring about change in existing public policy.

I don't think the mainstream media has avoided this John Edwards baby-daddy story because they have compassion for Elizabeth Edwards. (Although they would be glad to take protective cover by having the public assume it.)

Compassion exists in the journalistic profession but I doubt there is much of it among those who have power at the top. At least from my perspective. They have compassion for themselves and their families but I would question whether or not it extended out any further.

Unfortunately, as it has become increasingly clear, they do have a political agenda and the reason they have attempted to avoid this story is to be found there. IMO. Exactly how, I don't know.

As far as Elizabeth Edwards turning this into a "teachable moment", what should she be attempting to teach exactly?

Sharing information with the public about a physical disease is one thing. That is a very clear-cut public service. Get regular checkups. Try to catch it early. Seek out the best medical care. And from her reminders and example, lives are saved.

But being humiliated by your forty-something husband and his forty-something um...how you say in eenghee...slut..is much more problematical. How exactly do you extract a teaching moment out of that?

Of course, this has become a time-honored gimmick and PR strategery of celebs. DUI? Druggie in and out of rehab? Come right in. Let's get you on the cover of People with a nice big accompanying publicist-generated sob story.

And that's only a prelude to making the rounds of the morning news shows, the talk shows and the tabloid tv shows.

And what have all of these "teaching moments" accomplished? They have dumbed deviancy down.

They have mainstreamed bad behavior. And our society has suffered.

So, while Elizabeth Edwards is from all indications an exceptional and wonderful person, I'm not sure what good her making a public declaration of forgiveness of John Edwards would accomplish in the big picture.

He would get a pass, sure. But who except him, would that serve exactly? In the long run.

Afi Scruggs

If Elizabeth Edwards chooses, at the right time, to address this story, it too can be a teachable moment for her and every woman who has suffered insult on top of injury. It's a moment when women can say, "You know what? That happened to me too. I had a husband who I thought was very devoted to me, and then I had a mastectomy, and he left me." Or, "My boyfriend started stepping out when I was in chemo and wearing wigs."

Sounds like the reporter believes the child is Edwards'. But the child's mother says no, and another man is claiming paternity. The birth certificate is blank.
Until these facts are sorted out, this reporter should be more circumspect.

Another thing: Elizabeth Edwards may be a public figure, but the child's mother certainly isn't. She has grounds for invasion of privacy suit if the allegations are true, and a defamation/libel suit if they are false.

Is it any wonder the MSM are stepping lightly?

Cesar

You and your wife are public figures. She's written an award winning book. If I produced a blurry photo of you caught in some ungodly act, should we expect Diane to issue a statement condemning that act? If you yourself said 'I've responded, consistently, to these tabloid allegations by saying I don't respond to these lies and you know that... and I stand by that", and we STILL wanted you to go further, perhaps submitting your DNA to the Star, would you?

More to the point, would your wife write a book sourcing the National Enquirer? Would she get laughed out of the publisher's office if she did? So why are the standards of writing a history book different than the standards of sliming a politician? I think you should stick to commenting on fictional television and leave the journalism to your better half before you go dragging people's names through the mud.

I think you're right this is a teachable moment. You just missed the lesson by a country mile.

Jim

Ya know, it is just possible -- given the crop of the photo -- that neither the hands nor the baby belong to John Edwards. Ever think of that? Then why won't he deny it outright? Ya know, it might be for legal reasons. The man IS a lawyer, and there are a number of potential legal ramifications of a denial, none of which would be predicated on whether the denial was a true statement or not. I mark it down for now to a matter that is far more complicated than the news media can decipher at present, which leads to typical either/or conclusions on the part of the media. What else is new? I don't mind waiting for the real result, which will emerge with time. It always does.

Aaron Barnhart

Cesar, I mentioned your question to Mrs. TVB and she had a simple two word answer: "DNA test."

We would have this thing cleared up so fast, it would make AMI's lawyers' heads spin.

Rachel

Hunter's "job" with the campaign was paid for by donations from supporters. How do those people feel, knowing that they subsidized kanoodling?

And the photo doesn't look Photoshopped, but nice try.

IF Edwards is such a smart guy, why didn't he use a condom?

emma

first of all, it's him. i know it's blurry, but it's still him. second of all, he's a cad. i hope he finally admits to this since it's true. i hope rielle gets treated like hester prynne and realizes the marriage she broke up and the poor wife in chapel hill who has to deal with this as well as cancer and two small children at home. way to give into your hormones john and rielle (lisa?). you're both in your 40's and 50's? way to be mature when so many others' lives are on the line.

David B.

The saddest thing about this story is the fact that the MSM knew about this while he was running for President and cynically kept it to themselves. They deliberately tried to manipulate the political process by willfully and shamefully neglecting their responsibility to fairly and impartially report the news. It is their duty as the fourth estate of this great democracy, but their collective disgust at the thought of another Republican administration caused them to be derelict in their sacred obligation. The MSM is dead. Long live tabloids and the blogosphere.

Kevin Marousek

A guy had sex two years ago. Why is this news? I understand, Aaron, why you believe the method of reporting the story is interesting, but the story itself isn't newsworthy. On Friday's evening newscasts, all three networks placed it above war being declared when they generated their rundowns. Which do you suppose is going to affect more people, a war between Russia and Georgia, or a guy having sex two years ago?

alicia

Watching John Edwards on Nightline made me realize that I had been all wrong in trying to give him the benefit of the doubt and trying to believe that he was not a total sleeze.

His appearance brought to mind that line about sincerity being the most important thing and once you learn how to fake that, you've got it made.

Apparently John Edwards believed that he had it made since he had successfully managed to hone the fake sincerity thing down to an art.

That even may have been why he decided to go into politics. He probably figured the voting public would just be a bigger jury.

And, as a lawyer, he had learned that he could successfully lie to a jury. So why limit himself. Why not take his act out on the road and lie to the entire American public by running for President.

I was not surprised to hear that Rielle Hunter will not be taking a paternity test. JMO, but I think that is what she was paid off for by Edward's surrogates or Edwards himself behind some kind of wall of deniability.

They want to insure that she would not take it and confirm Edward's paternity.

That may have been the deal John Edwards made with Elizabeth. She may have agreed to stand by him if he insured that this woman, Rielle Hunter, would never in the future become in any way involved in the lives of the children of Elizabeth and John Edward's.

And the only way he could do this would be to deny paternity of her child.

Just some thoughts.

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