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August 15, 2008

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China was going to show the world how great they are, yet they lie, cheat, and steal at every opportunity. If you have ever done business in China, you know this is par for the course there. They think we are stupid and not worthy of the truth anyway. So they feel justified in making the “means” fit their end.

Using under-age girls for many purposes has long been part of the “good of the People” (read Party members). China is not a communist state, but the ultimate capitalist state, where 800 Party members own and control everything, including the media and government. At least 40% of the labor is China is forced (read slavery).

The $40 Billion that China has spent came largely from International Monetary and World Bank loans, which are largely funded by US taxpayers. China wants it both ways; to be seen as a world power, but also as a third-world country to qualify for low-interest loans, for which it has yet to make its first payment.

Who knows where the “donations” for the earthquake went. Most Chinese companies do not pay taxes for their US business activities, they use accounts in the Grand Cayman Islands and Switzerland. They are de-foresting Africa rapidly for lumber for furniture which gets sold by IKEA and others. Darfur is about Chinese oil interests. Anyone who is in their way gets “quieted.”

China is the largest polluter on the plant, just passing the US recently. They stopped production in factories months ago in order to try to have an image of clear skies for the Games. Yet they cry foul at the US for not signing the Kyoto treaty, which they openly violate. The pollution from China goes up into the jet stream, and falls over the US and Canada. But they say it is our problem, not theirs.


Most Americans are incredibly naïve about China. China was President Clinton’s largest indirect campaign contributor (and Hillary’s this time). Read The Year of the Rat by William C. Triplett II and Edward Timperlake (more below).

Nineteen ninety-six was the Chinese Year of the Rat, and according to William C. Triplett II and Edward Timperlake, the rats were so plentiful at the Clinton White House that only a thorough house-cleaning will rid the place of the Chinese intelligence agents and mobsters to whom the Clintons are beholden. Their main thesis will not surprise readers of TAS: Bill Clinton made a series of Faustian bargains with the Communist Chinese and their agents in the United States, trading national security for hefty campaign contributions that ultimately financed Dick Morris's now infamous media blitz in late 1995 and 1996. Clinton's betrayal ranged from leaking classified intelligence documents to wittingly assisting the modernization of the People's Liberation Army (PLA). The authors give new substance to Senator Fred Thompson's cryptic suggestions of a methodical game plan organized by the PLA, China's intelligence services, and the Chinese mob to infiltrate and ultimately control the American political establishment.

Z1, spitting your hatred won't earn your respect

It is us who bought, used, and wasted most of the products made by poor Chinese ppl and left them the greatest pollution in the world that kills thousands of them everyday.

Now you pretend to care about forest in Africa and blame Chinese for pollute the earth.

Look your soul and your hands, my pal, are they as clean as you said above?

You are the ppl who makes our American look ignorant and ugly to the rest of the world.

This might be a variation of "nobody ever leaves a show humming the set," but I'm surprised how many people (especially in the media) are taking NBC's high production values for granted. The opening ceremony stories will and should be forgotten someday. The video records of the sporting events will be complete and in high definition. Viewers feel empowered, with both cable and online options, to find the sports they deem interesting and watch events in their entirety.

I think the higher-than-expected ratings NBC is getting reflect the high quality work they are doing. It's a shame that once the Olympics are over NBC will return to The Biggest Loser, Dateline, and fourth place in the ratings.

RE the Olympics coverage by NBC sports, the network deserves kudos for handling a monumental job smoothly. That's what we expect them to do. But there's one glaring problem that nobody seems to notice: the inability of most NBC announcers to pronounce the names of Chinese athletes. With Russian or Polish names they do OK, Lithuanian names OK, Lower Slobbovian names No Problem. But Chinese names are consistently mispronounced and that glaringly reinforces the ancient “ugly American” cliché just one more time (sigh).

Chinese Olympics honchos must be biting their tongues and buttoning their lips with politely repressed anger.

It really ain't hard to do this part of the job right. It would have been easy to coach the announcers before they went on air with errors that sound to a native like fingernails on a blackboard.

I’ll give you 2 examples:(1) the gymnast Yang Yi-lin’s surname (Yang) has been consistently pronounced to rhyme with "yank" as in “Yankee.” But the letter “A” in romanized Chinese should sound like an “A” in French, Italian, Spanish or any other European Romance language: it’s “A” as in “father.” The “A” in the name “Yang” should rhyme with “ah.” Is that so hard?

(2)Another example is the name of the women’s springboard diving phenom, Guo Jing-jing. Her surname (Guo) has consistently been pronounced to rhyme with “go” (long “O”). The correct pronunciation rhymes with “aw” as in “paw.”

To make matters worse, the onscreen graphics listed her given name as her surname. That's like listing Michael Phelps as “Michael” instead of “Phelps.” The onscreen graphics listed her as “Jingjing” instead of “Guo.” The NBC staff could use some lessons on how not to commit international social gaffes.

Doesn't everybody know by now that in Chinese, the first name (e.g., Hu as in Hu Jin-tao) is the surname? Anybody with an IQ above body temperature should be able to get that. Our president is President Bush, not President George. The Chinese president is President Hu, not President Jin-tao.

There are literally dozens upon dozens of other mistakes going on air. If my criticism seems trivial, on the international stage it is not. This stuff offends the Chinese as it would offend anybody. In world cultures, ignorance equals arrogance. NBC has demonstrated once again that Americans are arrogant about their ignorance.

NBC needs to put a few bucks in their multi-gazillion-dollar budget for a multilingual voice coach.

Bill Warriner
Marlborough, Massachusetts
Phone 508-481-2727
e-mail bewarriner@comcast.net

I think the saddest commentary about all of this is that the Chinese government appears to have an insane hunger for the pursuit of perfection, with no regard for the price to be paid, be it a monetary or human one. They exploit their own citizens and obviously other countries to achieve their goals, what ever they might be. As far as the opening ceremonies go, I could only think of this - that country's leaders were so concerned with perfection that they spent millions and millions of dollars on presenting a perfect image, yet so many of their citizens are so poor. Just consider that for a minute.

Oh please Z1, give us a break, you're talking like a Democrat now. You're acting like you know a lot about China and you actually been to the place before.

If China really spent the $40 billions from the WB and IMF, I don't think the world media would give China any space to breathe anyway.

China overtook the US as the largest polluter, does it mean the US is not guilty of the same crime ? The US is a fully developed country, China is still a developing country. and if the US wants people to follow, it has to set a good example first.

The French are also active in Africa for oil there. And again hypocrisy, deforestation in Africa for IKEA, and who buys from IKEA ? it is us. so why trying to act like we are innocent ?

You said 40% of China labour is forced, and you have any proof ? then why migrants workers keep flocking to big Chinese cities every year if they are forced to work ?

I agree with offal that seriously people like you Z1 really embarasses American people. if you keep on acting like this on the net, God knows when the US will become the most hated nation on Earth.

seriously dude, your logics of argument just does not work for me.

Peace !

Z1 SAID :

"China was going to show the world how great they are, yet they lie, cheat, and steal at every opportunity. If you have ever done business in China, you know this is par for the course there. They think we are stupid and not worthy of the truth anyway. So they feel justified in making the “means” fit their end"


I then ask Z1 this question :

"Then why international corporations keep comming to China to open manufacturing plants and R&D design centres (yes Siemens) and Airbus already outsourced their only overseas manufacturing and assembling plant to China, Intel opened a Chips plant in China ?"
and these are only a few examples I give you.

Z1, you seem to a smart person, I hope you can answer these questions.

Interesting comment by Bill W. about pronunciation. It would also probably help if the announcers pronounced "Beijing" correctly: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GE4dkpOdPw

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