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March 04, 2006

Ports deal

If you think all black people are criminals and can't be trusted, you are A) brilliant, B) a bigot.

If you think all Arabs are criminals and can't be trusted, you are A) brilliant, B) a bigot.

The ports deal appears to be a good one involving allies of the United States. If Congress was surprised by it, it's because it didn't do its job. It was announced last October and investigated under rules set by Congress to ensure confidentiality.

There were 64 similar investigations conducted last year to approve foreign nations investing in the U.S. economy. Every investigative agency declared this a good deal with good people.

But here come the bigots who claim Arabs are criminals and can't be trusted. We are trying to strengthen ties with the Arab world. Economic ties stop wars. Bigots see only that Arab equals bad guy. That view is ignorant and bigoted.

George Thomas
Stanley

After reading columns from E. Thomas McClanahan (2/26) and Mary Sanchez (2/28) supporting the Dubai Ports World deal, I wonder whether it is not time for a terrorism handbook.

Since 9/11, the Republican Party and conservative columnists have been preaching to us to be very, very afraid. There is no sacrifice too big in fighting terrorism.

We have been told we are soft on terrorism if we don't want our phones tapped and don't support our rights being taken away through the Patriot Act. But we are xenophobic isolationists if we think turning our ports over to the same people who helped the 9/11 terrorists is bad for our country.

I thank it's time for a handbook so we will all know when we are good Americans

Greg King
Kansas City

Comments

CRD

I agree. Jumping to rash conclusions such as blaming "racism" when legitimate questions are raised is pretty darn stupid.

Ray Seay

In the News
Dubai firm to give up stake in U.S. ports


racism,politics. stupidity,(repubicans)
iliteratists. won this one.

Raising questions is legitimate.
Jumping to rash conclusions is not.

CRD

Um, so what? That certainly doesn't render the questions people are raising illegitimate or "racist."

Ray Seay

"Like all other Gulf Arab states, OPEC-member UAE is a staunch U.S. ally which has cooperated closely with Washington's post-September 11, 2001 war on terrorism.

U.S. Navy ships regularly dock in UAE ports, including those managed by Dubai Ports World."

CRD

the United Arab Emirates (UAE) is a country with troubling ties to international terrorism.

– The UAE was one of three countries in the world to recognize the Taliban as the legitimate government of Afghanistan.

– The UAE has been a key transfer point for illegal shipments of nuclear components to Iran, North Korea and Lybia.

– According to the FBI, money was transferred to the 9/11 hijackers through the UAE banking system.

– After 9/11, the Treasury Department reported that the UAE was not cooperating in efforts to track down Osama Bin Laden’s bank accounts.

Racism? Or are there indeed some legitimate questions about this country that seeks to run operations in six of our largest ports?

Ray Seay

Crd;;

152 ($10,000)

"There is no known link between the Dubai royal family." AND TERRORISM

Let‘s be nonpartisan, then.
What Would Clinton Do???


Bill Clinton helped Dubai on ports deal
By Stephanie Kirchgaessner in Washington
Published: March 1 2006 23:50 | Last updated: March 1 2006 23:50

Bill Clinton, former US president, advised top officials from Dubai two weeks ago on how to address growing US concerns over the acquisition of five US container terminals by DP World.
It came even as his wife, Senator Hillary Clinton, was leading efforts to derail the deal.

Mrs Clinton's own senatorial financial disclosure forms reveal that her husband earned $450,000 giving speeches in Dubai in 2002.
Officials from the UAE also donated between $500,000 and $1m to fund Mr Clinton's presidential library in Arkansas.
It was part of an effort by the emirates, said a person close to UAE officials, to forge a close relationship with a former US president who is influential and highly regarded in the region.
Mr Clinton's admiration for the UAE was last on display in November, when he made his fourth visit to the American University in Dubai

New York Post Online Edition: news
Bill Clinton has hailed Dubai as "a good ally to America [that is] trying to build a new Middle ... Clinton a letter strongly backing the Dubai port deal. ...
www.nypost.com/news/nationalnews/60489.htm


Clinton leads Dubai praise

by Anil Bhoyrul
FORMER US president Bill Clinton praised Dubai’s leaders last week, telling them the way Islamic and Western values and cultures are being merged is “wonderful”.

Clinton was quick to highlight the work done by the emirate’s rulers, in particular Sheikh Mohammed Bin Rashid Al Maktoum,
Clinton said: “Dubai is a role model of what could be achieved despite the other negative developments in the region. This is a very good example of how cultures and values could be merged and offered to the rest. I was amazed and I have a lot of admiration for Sheikh Mohammed for what he’s doing in Dubai.”

CRD

Ray, you've proven over and over again that even a guy with a 152 (or is it 154?) IQ can come off like an ignoramous if he shoots off his mouth without actually doing any research.

Facts:

the United Arab Emirates (UAE) is a country with troubling ties to international terrorism.

– The UAE was one of three countries in the world to recognize the Taliban as the legitimate government of Afghanistan.

– The UAE has been a key transfer point for illegal shipments of nuclear components to Iran, North Korea and Lybia.

– According to the FBI, money was transferred to the 9/11 hijackers through the UAE banking system.

– After 9/11, the Treasury Department reported that the UAE was not cooperating in efforts to track down Osama Bin Laden’s bank accounts.

Racism? Or are there indeed some legitimate questions about this country that seeks to run operations in six of our largest ports?

CRD

"There is no known link between the Dubai royal family."

You mean they're unrelated to each other?

Ray Seay

logic (REASONABLE THINKING) Show phonetics
noun [U]
a particular way of thinking, especially one which is reasonable and based on good judgment:

1. The 6 ports were run by a British company.
2. No one complained about foreign management.
3. It was bought by an Arab co.
4. "THE US IS IN MORTAL DANGER"
5. There is no known link between the Dubai royal family.

THUS;
racism
politics.
stupidity,(repubicans)
iliteratists.

LOGIC CLASS DISMISSED

CRD

No one doubts the strength of your convictions, Ray, but vou really should take a logic course.

Ray Seay

CRD;;

I am non partisan on bigotry also. Many ports were run by foreigners before.
NO PROTEST UNTIL ARABS BOUGHT ONE.
Absent a tie to terrorists by the Dubai leader, you have racism, anti bush opportunism or stupidity(republicans),

Good link but I hold my views, which are right,

CRD

It seems to me that attributing the discomfort that people on both sides of the aisle (and across our country) have about the administration's ports deal to "racism" is overly simplistic, at the least.

House GOP unites to kill ports deal

"Republican House leaders last night split with President Bush and said they would derail a Dubai-owned company's bid to take control of operations at six major U.S. ports," says the Washington Times. "'It is my intention to lay the foundation to block the deal,' said Rep. Jerry Lewis, California Republican and House Appropriations Committee chairman."

"We do not believe the U.S. should allow a state-owned company to run American ports," said House Speaker Hastert's spokesman.

http://washingtontimes.com/national/20060308-122907-9952r.htm

CRD

Your logic is somewhat deficient, Ray.

Ray Seay

Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum is currently the Prime Minister and Vice President of the United Arab Emirates, as well as the leader of Dubai.; which controls the ports company’ I have found no link between him and bin Laden.
Thus “those people” can only refer to Arabs(most likely) or to Dubains( who were unknown a month ago.
Or maybe “Dubai” sounds too much like “dubya” which some iliteratists misspell and mispronounce, meaning W.(double u), the president’s middle initial.


CRD

"turning our ports over to the same people who helped the 9/11 terrorists is bad for our country."

That's only "anti-Arab" if by "the same people" you mean "Arabs." If, on the other hand, you mean "the bin Laden family," that simplistic charge of racism doesn't really stick, does it?

It seems to me that most people's misgivings about the Dubai deal comes from a perception -- shared by Republicans and Democrats alike -- that the administration may have exercised less than due diligence in vetting the potential security risks of the deal, rather than any ingrained "racism."

Skepticism about this deal runs high among both major parties as well as independents, no matter how much Karl Rove would like to frame this as a Democratic smear.

Ray Seay

NO FACTS AGAINST DUVAI COMPANY
just

1. ANTI ARAB
"turning our ports over to the same people who helped the 9/11 terrorists is bad for our country."

2 ANTI BUSH
Since 9/11, the Republican Party and conservative columnists have been preaching to us to be very, very afraid

JUNGLEJACK

"...I wouldn't get too worked up about foreign ownership of domestic assets. If the companies that own those assets manage them better than we can, then we all benefit."

Goods point, Sammy. Somewhat reminiscent of the 80s when the fear of Japanese ownership plagued America.

Jim, I agree with your assessment with one exception... the people leading the resistence to the port deal are mostly Democrats and some Republicans who are vying for the next "maverick" label by stepping away from the President when they think it could do them some political good. Doesn't seem like the same group who bought into "government by fear" - to use your phrase.

Sammy

JD - You may recall ObL issued a veiled threat prior to the '04 election for us not to vote for W. Prior to that, there were terrorist attacks before a major election in Spain that did influence their election. Those seem like good reasons to raise a terror alert.

Also, I wouldn't get too worked up about foreign ownership of domestic assets. If the companies that own those assets manage them better than we can, then we all benefit.

Engineer

Jim
You are right, but American companies just don't seem interested in this business. JJ, on another thread, Posted "Probably one of the reasons the return on investment of ownership isn't great enough to attract American interest." Or it may be that the diffficulity in dealing with Maritine Unions, when companies fron other countries do not have problems of the same scope, has caused American Companies to avoid maritine related industries.


 
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