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July 25, 2006

Hezbollah not victims

It has been impossible to turn on TV or read your newspaper without seeing pictures of innocent Lebanese civilians being wounded, killed or made refugees by the war.

The media has gone a long way to make Hezbollah the victim and Israel the perpetrator.

The fact that Hezbollah invaded Israel, killing eight soldiers and kidnapping two, meant that Israel had to respond and that war was inevitable.

The whole scene was scripted by Syria and Iran to get their lackey Hezbollah to do their dirty work. The total destruction of Israel has been the aim of Hamas, Hezbollah, Syria and Iran.

When you hide your missile launchers in civilian neighborhoods, you’re bound to cause civilian casualties.

Remember: War is hell, and the people who initiate one have to bear the consequences — civilians and all.

Carl Galler
Leawood

Comments

jack

One of the Hezbollah commanders gave an interview yesterday in which he said they were "surprised" by the Israeli response. They thought that there would be a brokered deal to return the soldiers, "Just like last time." Methinks that speaks volumes.

At the same time, the U.S. proposal that only things that will provide an "enduring peace" are on the table doesn't look realistic. This seems counter productive to me. Methinks that getting them to stop shooting at each other for a little bit might lead to something better. First the shooting has to stop.

Installing a "peace keeping force" like has been talked about ain't gonna work. The only proposals I have read for this force basically give Israel what they want and the other side nothing.

Unless the U.N., E.U., Russia, China, Iran, et al, are all in agreement that destroying Hezbollah is the thing to do, there must be two sides to the deal. Destroying Hezbollah is an idea that appeals, but I doubt that will work either.

Let's face it. The world war has started. And, just like the cold war, this is a "proxy war". If Iran cuts off the money and munitions. And Syria quits allowing the transshipment. Hezbollah is essentially shut down. But, this ain't gonna happen.

Iran is in the catbird seat. We are not a credible threat against them and the E.U. etc ain't gonna go after them. They have all that oil money and a desire to screw with the "infidels". They are gonna keep it up.

At the same time, it looks like Syria would like to get off the hot seat. But, if they spurn Iran, who do they turn to? Us? Like we are going to say, "Jump in, the waters fine!" Yeah, right.

I just don't see a short term solution to any of this. And we Americans do like quick fixes.

Sophie Demartine

You Can Not Kill Us All

This is a must listen interview with Tina Naccache in Beirut

The Silence of the good people of the United States is deafening! How can they not do anything? Click here to listen

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article14195.htm

Sophie Demartine

This is it, Armageddon, we are in its throes and it is up to the American People to decide what they want and quick, there’s not much time left.

Whatever you think of Hezbollah ...the Lebanese , the Arab World and the Palestinians think of them as heroes. For the Arab world Hezbollah is the French Resistance, the Irish Republican Army, Che Guevara , Camilo Cienfuegos and “los barbudos” , the Minutemen of the American Revolution...


Hezbollah built hospitals and water purification plants, when no one else would, they defended the humiliation and oppression of the Palestinian people when no one else would. The Israelis know you can’t subjugate heroes you can only eliminate them. Now the Israelis are dropping American made cluster bombs and white phosphorous bombs to do just that, however they are missing their targets 90% of the time and hundreds of children are suffering or dead as a result.

To make a very long story very short, America wants to keep the middle east under their control either by tyranny as in Saudi Arabia and Iran or by poverty as in the Palestinian Bantustan. The last thing America wants is to see social democracies springing up in the Middle East, like the ones that recently sprang up in Venezuela and Bolivia. Iran was going the way of Democracy with the election of Mossadegh yet our newly born CIA got rid of him and replaced him with a tyrant puppet of the U.S. If we had left Mossadegh in power, Iran would be a prosperous democracy today and probably so would have been the whole of the Middle East, and Osama bin Laden would probably be running a construction company building hospitals instead of bombs. Yet we can’t change the past. Today Iran is again on the verge of Democracy only the Iraq invasion is keeping the Iranian rebels from rebelling against the Mullahs.

Today we Americans have hard choices to make, thanks to all our immoral actions of the recent past.

If Bush nukes Iran, Russia and China have threatened to retaliate against us, I believe they will because the Middle East is important to them too. For the moment they do nothing because they see us losing the invasion of Iraq without their intervention. China ordered North Korea to fire those test missiles to show us they mean business. North Korea is a China puppet. Russia is pointing its missiles at us again for the first time since the end of the cold war.

America can not win a conventional war in Iraq the reason is several independent polls taken of our soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan show that more than 75% of our soldiers are there not to defend America or bring Freedom to Iraq , but to defend their brothers in arms and earn income and health coverage for their families…75% percent of our soldiers think that this invasion is a terrible mistake, they think their Commander and Chief is a coward and they just want to come home. They are ashamed of the Democratic party for not showing more courage and opposition and most of all they blame the American people for allowing all this to happen in the first place by voting Republican. I generalize, of course, but this is more or less the case.

If Bush does NOT nuke Iran, Bush /Cheney and the PNAC fascists will lose Iraq and eventually the whole Middle East eventually, including Saudi Arabia, so the stakes are really high for the fascists, either they risk World War III (and very possibly a nuclear war at that ) or they lose all power for a long time, because they bankrupted America with this fiasco and without war to keep them in power they’re cooked politically and all the truth will come out and fry them forever.

However, this is not like the 60s when we had a Kennedy at the helm to help us avoid nuclear holocaust, no this time we have George W. Bush at the helm. If his past record is any indication, nuclear holocaust is inevitable unless we impeach him and fast.

If we quit now, if we pull out Iraq all together, Iran, Iraq and Saudi Arabia will become social democracies, after some turmoil and popular revolutions, yet like Venezuela and Bolivia , they too will become social democracies, relatively quickly. They will nationalize their oil industries and our oil corporations will be out of business. Thus the stakes are high for the fat cats.

Yet I’m not a fat cat, I’d rather have peace , drive an electric car and get my energy from Solar, Wind and Wave than risk Chinese and Russian nukes dropping on our power plants , major cities and my home.

The DLC Democrats are out of the picture now they gave up their authority when they refused to contest the vote fraud of 2000 and 2004. I don’t blame Kerry or Gore , I blame the DLC, the right wing of the Democratic Party.

There is only one solution now, impeachment and marching in the streets, to oust all the Republican fascists and force the Democrats to do our bidding and not the bidding of the Corporations , it’s our only hope.

Look at the big picture, the Republican fascists are dead set on going to Iran and that means fighting against Russia and China.

Europe will remain neutral they will not help a Fascist America though they would support a Democratic America. For the moment they’re not sure who we are as a people, are the American people fascists too…or just the government? Will the American people oust the fascists or not? Europe is waiting to see.

So either We the People impeach this fascist government ASAP or we may all have other things to worry about, other than gay marriage, immigration and stem cell research… like endemic cancer , radioactive burns on our children, radioactive water and food, no more New York or Los Angeles...

The Democrats are not the solution, they too obey Corporate America, they have to know that either they go against Corporate America this time around or they will replaced by those who will. The very health and lives of our children are at stake. It is time to impeach, it is time to rebel, it’s time to split the Democratic party, it is time for Boston Tea Party II.

Jim Satterfield

The only media that has mentioned anything about Israel raiding Lebanon are very fringe. Even the Arab equivalents of the main stream press acknowledge the complicity of Hezbollah while they condemn what they view as Israel's over-reaction. OTOH, Hezbollah has also lobbed missiles across the border for years. They also had pulled this exact same stunt a few years back making this recent incursion and kidnapping a good proof of the old saw about what happens when you give in to blackmailers. Maybe the Israelis just got tired of it and thought only this massive onslaught would make the Lebanese reconsider sheltering Hezbollah and giving them a free hand to build their own army in Lebanon. I think they miscalculated but I can understand.

JUNGLEJACK

"The media has gone a long way to make Hezbollah the victim and Israel the perpetrator."

Sophie - where's all this pro-Israel biased media coverage you constantly insist is out there?

Mike4Freedom

As usual, there are multiple versions of the facts. American main stream media tell us that Hezbollah invaded Israel and "kidnapped" two soldiers.
Other world media have a different version of the story. They tell us that Israel had sent a raiding party over the border into Lebanon and Hezbollah was defending itself and captured prisoners of war.

I don't know for sure what happened but I resent how sure everyone is about the facts and how the media gives us one side and doesn't tell us there is a dispute on a key point.

The only comfort I can take from this is that all acknowledge that the one that started the fight is the agressor and criminally responsible for all the consequences. That acknowledges the number one principle of Libertarians. You must never initiate force! You can use force only in self defense.

 
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