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April 06, 2007

Fired U.S. attorneys

The current flap concerning the Justice Department has me flabbergasted.

I know that at 79 my ideas are very old-fashioned, but when did justice become a matter of politics? Isn’t that the way it is in dictatorships?

I thought there was a Constitution that guided us in the ways of justice and fairness to all parties.

Who was it who said that “justice is blind”? We used to portray the statue of Justice as wearing a blindfold. Now we should show her weeping.

Sara Yocum
Kansas City

Comments

nosheepleallowed

Respected attorney...now that's funny.
Did not think there was such a thing.

Arminius

T. Hanson:

(The name followed by a colon indicates that I am addressing someone other than myself.)

"Other than talking to yourself, 3 times in a row, I would love to know your bias for the above statement."

Given your poor reading skills, would you understand such a "bias"?

"Is there proof that she is a lesbian or are you making a general assumption trying to insult not just her but the gays and lesbians?"

Why would gays and lesbians be insulted if Reno were a lesbian? Youre betraying your own bias, are you not?

T. Hanson

"That's baloney. Everyone knows that Hubbell was put into place to keep an eye on Janet Reno (who was far less qualified than Gonzales--she got the job because she was a lesbian with no chance of having a nanny problem)." --Arminus
Other than talking to yourself, 3 times in a row, I would love to know your bias for the above statement. Is there proof that she is a lesbian or are you making a general assumption trying to insult not just her but the gays and lesbians? IMO from your statements I feel that you would not be able to prove the accusation therefore it leaves to reason you are just attacking (or name calling) and would not expect any better from you and your comments you have used to attack Jack. But once again that IMO.

Arminius

irishguy:

"Hillary Clinton (who didn't work alone by the way, but headed a blue-ribbon commission...."

She had 500 "experts" working in secret. The unnamed experts came mostly from the staffs of Democrat congressmen. These congressmen received a total of $4,572,809 from health care PACs. That's why charges of secrecy regarding Cheney energy taskforce are sheer hypocrisy.

In the end, Hillary's socialized medicine scheme failed as badly as her attempt to overhaul the education system in Arkansas.

Yes, she's no crony! She's eminently qualified!

Arminius

irishguy:

"Web Hubbel, until his conviction, was one of the most highly respect and regarded attorneys in the U.S."

That's baloney. Everyone knows that Hubbell was put into place to keep an eye on Janet Reno (who was far less qualified than Gonzales--she got the job because she was a lesbian with no chance of having a nanny problem).

"Please note that Clinton did nothing to hinder his prosecution, like, say, firing the U.S. Attorney who investigated him."

W. Hickman Ewing Jr., the prosecutor, was not a U.S. attorney. He was Kenneth Starr's deputy. Clinton did not have the authority to fire him.

Isn't it odd that the moonbats will defend a convicted felon like Hubbell because he is a Democrat, yet they flail about with all these bogus accusations concerning Republicans?

Arminius

kcwookie:

"Arminius, you have some wonderful comments, but how many US Attorneys did Clinton fire?"

He fired 93 attorneys in 1993, including attorneys working on cases involving Democrat scandals.

Engineer

Irishguy
However highly regarded Web Huble might have been, and I don't believe he was all that famous, he was a man who defrauded people who trusted him and was convicted for it. If that is the type and caliber of person you want in your Government then some of your other comments are more easily understood. You have no proof what so ever that there was a political motive in discharging the attorneys. Lam just wassn't doing her job over all.

irishguy

You take it wrong, Engineer, as usual.

Web Hubbel, until his conviction, was one of the most highly respect and regarded attorneys in the U.S.

Please note that Clinton did nothing to hinder his prosecution, like, say, firing the U.S. Attorney who investigated him.

Engineer

Irishguy
So, as I understand it, anyone from Arkansaw is eminently qualified, even if they turn out to be a felon and get sent to prison. (Web Huble) Or, no matter where they are from, if their first loyality is to the UN rather than the USA. (Strobe Talbot and others)

irishguy

Armi, a big difference is that Web Hubbel, and Mack McClarty, Strobe Talbot, Robert Reich, Ira Magaziner, and even Hillary Clinton (who didn't work alone by the way, but headed a blue-ribbon commission), were all eminently qualified for the jobs they were appointed.

You can't even come close to saying the same thing for the likes of Harriet Meiers, Alberto Gonzales, Michael Brown, Michael Chertoff, and scores of other incompetents that have made a ruin of the executive branch of government.

kcwookie

Arminius, you have some wonderful comments, but how many US Attorneys did Clinton fire? Every office you described are filled with political appointees.

Every president has appointed his cronies to various offices. The difference here is that President Bush tries so hard to avoid any oversite.

Arminius

irishguy:

"I can't remember a president who ignored competence in favor of rewarding political cronies more than this one."

Clinton appointed Web Hubbell (a Rose Law firm alumnus) as his number 2 at Justice, fired the travel office staff so his cousin could run it, put his wife in charge of pushing siclaized medicine down our throats, made his childhood friend Mack McClarty his chief of staff, and put friends Robert Reich, Ira Magaziner, Strbe Talbott in other offices. So don't give us the nonsense about appointing political cronies.

irishguy

"Harriet Miers was a Clinton holdover, placed in her White House job by the Democrats only to embarrass President Bush."

BZZZZZ! Wrong answer. You are probably thinking of Dee Dee Meyers, Clinton's first press secretary.

Harriet Meiers first met Bush in 1989, and served in his administration since he was elected governor of Texas in 1994. She was legal counsel for the 2000 Bush campaign and never worked outside of Texas until she became White House counsel in 2001.

I know how bad you want to blame the Harriet Meiers fiasco on Clinton, but Bush owns this one all by hisself.


jack

"Harriet Miers was a Clinton holdover, placed in her White House job by the Democrats only to embarrass President Bush."

Well, this is one thing that Clinton should get credited as a success. She sure has embarrassed Bush!

whispering_to_kc

Harriet Miers was a Clinton holdover, placed in her White House job by the Democrats only to embarrass President Bush.

irishguy

Oh. "George Washington did it, too." That's a new excuse.

The deal is, in addition to the political considerations, past presidents also required at least some level of competence. Bush put up Harriet Meiers for the Supreme Court, a nomination that even his political base could not stomach.

I can't remember a president who ignored competence in favor of rewarding political cronies more than this one.


Chris40

"But when did justice become a matter of politics? Isn’t that the way it is in dictatorships?"

Ummm, the president has always appointed judges. Even 79 years ago. Even when George Washington was president. But, of course, when Bush appoints judges it's because he's a dictator.

"Who was it who said that “justice is blind”? We used to portray the statue of Justice as wearing a blindfold."

Statute is still the same, even since Bush took office. Go to any courthouse and check it out.

Arminius

Jack:

It's "incompetent," you ninny. Anyone who lived through the 1990s should be able to spell that word.

jack

We have now had more than six years of government in which "loyalty to the leader" is considered far more important than competance. THis has brought us people with ZERO expertise attempting to run the "Provisional Authority" in Iraq. And we all know how well that worked out.

It has also brought us things like the situation in Minnesota, where four of the permanent prosecutors turned in their resignations rather than work for the incompetant appointed by the Bushies.

When you elect an executive branch whose stated goal is to establish a "permanent majority party", this is what you get. If you don't like what your are getting, you must change what you are doing (or who you are voting for).

 
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