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February 25, 2008

‘Doonesbury’ character

Recently Garry Trudeau introduced a new character into his comic strip “Doonesbury,” Mrs. DeLuca, the mother of seriously wounded Iraq veteran, Toggle.

She is depicted in all of her vulgar glory: pudgy, tattooed, spiked hair and, to really cover all the bases, a cross dangling from a necklace.

In the strip of Feb. 20, when she is asked who Toggle’s father is, Trudeau gives her this response, “One of three jerks. I wasn’t always the class act you see now.”

This depiction of our military personnel and their families as the trashy dregs of American society may comfort and titillate the Northeast salon liberals with their bigoted stereotypes, but it is deeply offensive to the people who are paying an enormous sacrifice in the service of our country. It is also demonstrably inaccurate.

Whatever one’s views are of the Iraq war, this vicious sliming of our troops and their families should disgust every fair minded person.

Bruce Bubacz
Leawood

Comments

Jim

GCYL, are you denying that Doonesbury is a comic strip?

Jim

Zeno,

If calling me "Iggy" makes you feel better, so be it. I still have no idea who that is. The point of insulting someone by calling them a name is that they actually know who you're comparing them to.

Secondly, your attempt to paint me as arrogant is ridiculous, especially when compared to you yourself. I've admitted that there are all kinds of things I don't understand many times. You're the one who claims to have a personal relationship with the creator of the universe and to know his thoughts on a variety of subjects. That seems pretty arrogant to me.

Remember that I grew up being indoctrinated by Cass County Pentecostals. It's not that I know nothing about such things, it's that I don't believe them and don't care.

Engineer

stone
the basis or all humor IMO, be it in a cartoon or a comic strip is a play on the traits of humans. In Pogo's immortal line "We have met the enemy, and they are us". Comic strip characters are intended to represent a segment of humanity or human traits, not a particular individual. They don't always play as their depicters intend, as Archie Bunker more or less dumbfounded his. But Doonesbury could have selected Cindy Sheehan for his model rather than the one he used. There had to be some basis for his choice.

zenozac

Sorry Kate, I'm an Atheist. You'll have to ask Zenozac how all that Messiah stuff works.

Posted by: Jim | Feb 26, 2008 3:45:24 PM

Wow the first ever admission by IGGY, I mean Jim that there is something he does not understand. But relax Jim, one day you will understand how all the messiah stuff works.

stone

So, how is the Doonesbury cartoon from the other day where they are going to "honor" the dying motor cyclist by pillaging a small town a political commentary?

stone

What section of the paper is Doonesbury printed in? Oh right, THE COMICS.

GCYL

“It is a f'ing comic strip. All humor is going to be at someone else's expense. ” – stone

Doonesbury is political commentary and as such it’s understandable that all it’s humor will be at someone else’s expense. Humor outside of political commentary is entirely different.

“then they obviously can't comprehend the purpose of a comic strip.” – stone

And you obviously can’t comprehend the difference between a comic strip and political commentary and the vastly different purposes they have.

Casady

Sorry to go off topic a bit but did you hear about the casino security guard in Iowa who was fired for posting a "Dilbert" strip that referred to management as a bunch of drunken lemurs?

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080220/NEWS/802200382

stone

No, GCYL, you misinterpreted my comment, although I can see how that happened, and I probably should have clarified myself more.

Anyone who wines about what ANY comic strip is depicting will obviously fit into the "no, that is below their comprehension level". It goes for the people who claim Glen Mccoy's comics are insulting, along with the people who complain about Lee Judge. It is a f'ing comic strip. All humor is going to be at someone else's expense. If someone takes it for more than the 2 cents it is worth as a comic, then they obviously can't comprehend the purpose of a comic strip. If you don't find the comic funny- don't read it. But don't make yourself look stupid by taking it for more than what it is worth...a f'ing comic strip.

Should all manager's be offended because in 'Dilbert' the boss is portrayed as a pointy haired idiot? If I was to be offended by that, then obviously, I am below that level of comprehension to realize what a comic really is....a comic.

Letters Editor

Time saving always appreciated, Kate!

Kate

“is not a direct attack on all the poor, heartsick mothers whose children signed on the line to serve their country”

Again, speaking only for myself, I would prefer to be referred to as “anxious, but extremely proud.” I don’t need your pity.

And Jerry, as for your last paragraph [DELETED BY MODERATOR]
(Trudy, I don’t mean to do your job for you. Just saving us both a little time.)

GCYL

“answer: No, that would be above their level of comprehension” - stone

One of the greatest forms of entertainment is watching people proclaim which political cartoon is above a certain groups’ level of comprehension.

GCYL

“Has it occured to Bruce Bubacz and any of the other misguided patriots out there that 'Doonesbury' is a comic strip?” – Jerry Clarke

Has it occurred to you that in many papers “Doonesbury” is printed in the commentary sections with other political cartoons?

“However, based upon the average local newscast story involving military mothers in front of a camera (which I still do not understand the mothers' reasoning), Mr. Trudeau may not be too far off the mark.” - Jerry Clarke

Now that's cartoon humor.

stone

"Has it occured to Bruce Bubacz and any of the other misguided patriots out there that 'Doonesbury' is a comic strip? Comedic punchlines are always humor at someone's expense."
Jerry

answer: No, that would be above their level of comprehension

Jerry Clarke

Has it occured to Bruce Bubacz and any of the other misguided patriots out there that 'Doonesbury' is a comic strip? Comedic punchlines are always humor at someone's expense. Simply depicting a fictional character as a rough-on-the-edges, classless, hick is not a direct attack on all the poor, heartsick mothers whose children signed on the line to serve their country. That is an important point to remember: they picked!

However, based upon the average local newscast story involving military mothers in front of a camera (which I still do not understand the mothers' reasoning), Mr. Trudeau may not be too far off the mark.

Jim

"Jim, how do we stand on the “Obama’s the Messiah” issue? And if you win that one, do we all have to get re-baptized? (The Audacity of Evangelism)"

Sorry Kate, I'm an Atheist. You'll have to ask Zenozac how all that Messiah stuff works.

Jim

"I can't say he's unpatriotic, because he's says the Pledge sometimes."

Sometimes? I'd love to see the evidence that he picks and chooses when to say the pledge.

Gosh, sorry to spoil your fun by insisting you limit your campaigning to real issues instead of whisper and smear campaigns.

Must be rough to have a nominee you can't stand and not have your sliming of his opponent gain any ground. This is gonna be a tough year for you guys.

It might not be so bad, actually. I hear Mittens is thinking of getting back in the race!

stone

"If Hillary gets the nomination it will be an Obamination."
Chris

this quote made me laugh loud enough that my boss caught me reading the blog at work.....

Kate

We can't mention his accomplishments because . . . well . . . he doesn't have any.

Chris40

So I can't call him a Muslim, because he's not one. I can't mention that his middle name is Hussein, even though it is. I can't say he's unpatriotic, because he's says the Pledge sometimes. And I can't mention his lapels, because just because.

Ok, I'm out of issues. A little help there, Kate?

 
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