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March 31, 2008

Billion-dollar boondoggle

I’ve seen cost estimates for the light rail project ranging from $800 million up to $1.6 billion, after the inevitable cost overruns. How many buses can you buy for a billion dollars? For that amount of money, the buses could have leather recliners, an espresso bar, ESPN and stewardesses. In fact, for $1.6 billion, you could probably provide stretch limousine service for the entire projected ridership.

This project has “boondoggle” written all over it.

Barry Pascal
Overland Park

Comments

solomon

Good afternoon Jim,

I think you have a point. I've asked GCYL on many occasions if there had ever, in his opinion, been a viable plan. He has argued nonsense about voiding this and nimrods that but has never said what a good plan would do.

GCYL

“There's no real point behind any of his snarkiness.” - Jim

This from the Collective Conciseness of moral equivalence.

GCYL

“I'll support that first light rail proposal that addresses that responsibly.” - solomon

I agree with Mr.T. The price of gas could go up to $10.00 a gallon and the city leaders would still be avoiding their responsibilities. They had 10 years to address solomon’s question and they willfully failed. It’s not that people demanded a light rail answer; we just waited 10 years for a realistic answer from them and never got one. Now they void an election result with out giving the voters a realistic answer in the form of a new/updated mass transportation system.

Again, when will the Blue Max go north of the river? When will there ever be a viable bus service between downtown KCK and KCMO?

Vote No for any more/additional tax money for our dysfunctional bus system. - Posted by: GCYL | Apr 1, 2008 12:28:49 PM

“Where exactly is the argument you are having with me?” - solomon

Contrary to popular belief, indecision is NOT the key to flexibility. After an intensive dialogue your “There’s no argument here because solomon hasn’t announced a decision” is getting old.

To close: You don’t like the current light rail plan that was voided by the city. Our nimrod city leadership didn’t like that light rail plan either. I hope the city loses the law suite and the bus funding is voted down on April 8th.

Jim

Good luck with that, Solomon. GCYL just like to pick fights for the fun of it. There's no real point behind any of his snarkiness.

solomon

GCYL,

Where exactly is the argument you are having with me?

GCYL

“i never miss an opportunity to vote, and I love it when a vote I cast is on the winning side.” – solomon

The Paseo bridge closes and they couldn’t give away free bus passes. Gas was nearly $3.00 a gallon and our great civic leaders didn’t spend a hundred thousand in anti-advertising. Then a majority of voters said yes to the only mass transit system on the ballot because we just wanted to be on the winning side.

“Our area, although not unique in the way it expanded, does not lend itself to a contiguous light rail system.” - solomon

Maybe having nimrods for civic leaders over the last ten years isn’t unique either. Clearly the issue of a larger, more inclusive mass transit system wasn’t going to go away. The only thing that went away was our city leadership.

GCYL

“I agree with you that a better bus system at a fraction of the cost of light rail is needed north of the river.” - solomon

Yes but after they voided the election results, what happened? They didn’t give the voters a realistic better bus system at a fraction of the cost of light rail. So in reality we’re still waiting on our city leaders. I guess T.Hanson and I will have to wait until gas is $10.00 a gallon and finally something will, indeed, be much better than nothing.

solomon

GCYL,

i never miss an opportunity to vote, and I love it when a vote I cast is on the winning side.

I do not think we are really on opposing sides here. I just would like a planned route that would do for KC what light rail has done in other cities. Our area, although not unique in the way it expanded, does not lend itself to a contiguous light rail system.

GCYL

“I can't agree that "something is better than nothing just because its something".” – solomon

Yeah and we couldn’t stomach another year of “you’ll get nothing just because we call it something”.

Again, you don’t like the results from 10 years of inaction from our city leaders, cry THEM a river. Have THEM answere you questions.

solomon

Good afternoon GCYL,

I can't agree that "something is better than nothing just because its something".

I agree with you that a better bus system at a fraction of the cost of light rail is needed north of the river.

GCYL

“I'll support that first light rail proposal that addresses with responsibly.” - solomon

I agree with Mr.T. The price of gas could go up to $10.00 a gallon and the city leaders would still be avoiding their responsibilities. They had 10 years to address solomon’s question and they willfully failed. It’s not that people demanded a light rail answer; we just waited 10 years for a realistic answer from them and never got one. Now they void an election result with out giving the voters a realistic answer in the form of a new/updated mass transportation system.

Again, when will the Blue Max go north of the river? When will there ever be a viable bus service between downtown KCK and KCMO?

Vote No for any more/additional tax money for our dysfunctional bus system.

solomon

"addresses that responsibly"

solomon

T Hanson,

Please tell us which of the proposed routes (any of them), will serve the community well?

I am not opposed to light rail when they offer something more than token esteem. Is a train system from Olathe/Overland park/KCK to downtown Kansas City an attractive idea? Yes, if thats where you live. Is a light rail line from the Airport to the Plaza something we'd like to have? Of course we would. How about Lees Summit to the business district of Johnson Co. Lets connect our revitalized (bars,real estate and arena) downtown with all of the outlying areas.

Sell your childrens souls to do it.

The greater Kansas City area is one of the largest (sq mile) in the US. I'll support that first light rail proposal that addresses with responsibly.

T. Hanson

Wait till gas prices are around $10/gal, and see how many people will complain about not having a light rail (or simluar).

jack

Olathe keeps talkingt about the need to raise the Sales Tax. They are "short of money". Every year they dig up a bunch of roadside and medians and plants bulbs. Every fall they dig them back up.

I have a money saving suggestion.

Plant Perenials!

CRD

Way I see it, it's a long-term investment in area infrastructure. Those don't come cheap on the front end, but they pay significant dividends down the road. (or is it, down the track?)

jack

For several years I used to drive the "Renner Road Corridor" everyday. Went from a barely paved, tree overhung, narrow, two lane, to a four lane divided with flowered and fountained islands during that time.

Did I mention that at the exact same time the City Of Lenexa (which pout in the flower gardens with fountains) was laying off school teachers for lack of money.

Strange priorites if you ask me.

solomon

NE,

There have been flowers on Blvds for over a century. How is its continuation "urban (black community: code word) beautification?

solomon

NE,

With the urban sprawl of the metro taken into consideration, there have been no plans set forth that would ease traffic or do a better job of moving people than the buses.

As far as your opinions of flowers on Blvds, your desire to make a statement once again shows that clueless side of you I've come to know so well. Look at what you wrote and tell me how your objection makes any sense whatsoever.

 
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