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April 03, 2008

School vouchers

For a system that graduates less then 50 percent of its students (4/1, A-1, “Dropout ranking high for district”) I would think the use of private-school vouchers is a no-brainer.

Why do the patrons of Kansas City’s obviously incapable system continue to put up with it? Demand vouchers and close these incapable public institutions. Or does the threat of the free market to the entrenched unions override your children?

George Hunsucker
Kearney

Comments

jack

So, after all the "quality" students are stripped out of the school system, who is going to pay for educating the "non-quality" students? How many of these voucher schools are going to have classes for "special needs" students?

It's real easy to end up with a student body that scores quite high as long as you get to pick and choose the students.

So, voucher folks, fill me in. Who is going to pay for the education of those with physical deformities? Who is going to pay for the training of those who are "mentally challenged"?

Or do you paln to give those parents vouchers and say, "Thanks for having the kid. Now screw off"?

Casady

Thanks for echoing one of my points BD. The deplorable testing scores for urban schools are more likely the result of lack of acountability at the home front than from the lack of quality teaching in the classroom. Once that lack of accountabilty permeates private schools through a voucher system, I would bet that testing scores at those schools will decline as well. I know several people who teach in KCMO public schools and they are fine educators and each one will tell you they are dealing with a frustrating situation. And blaming the NEA is BS. IF that is the case, explain Blue Valley which in the top 5% of the country.

Casady

Thanks for echoing one of my points BD. The deplorable testing scores for urban schools are more likely the result of lack of acountability at the home front than from the lack of quality teaching in the classroom. Once that lack of accountabilty permeates private schools through a voucher system, I would bet that testing scores at those schools will decline as well. I know several people who teach in KCMO public schools and they are fine educators and each one will tell you they are dealing with a frustrating situation.

big dreamer

The problem with voucher's is a rather large one. Milwaukee and Cleveland are the models for voucher programs and follow-up research has shown neither program is very effective. Student's who go to a "voucher" school do no better than those who do not and, even worse, is that the voucher's tend to benefit those who are already at public schools more than those who truly need a choice. Do your homework before you spout off about how great voucher's our because there is a good chance a scholar of educational stratification is going to read your comments. The problem is so much more than ineffective schools and teachers but we have yet moved to the process of holding students and their families accountable! If you are going to hold any one group responsible for the failure you need to hold ALL those involved responsible.

Casady

Great idea George! And who is going to cover the funding gap between tuition and actual costs for your voucher recipients? Since you are too cheap to pony up private school tuition now, I can not imagine you'd be willing to gift the funding gap. I guess we'll have to do that for you, huh? And what happens when the quality of private school declines when the student body is expanded to include those same students from dysfinctional families who help to take down the KCMO schools system. What then?

There are plenty of low cost or no cost options within KCMO for families who are behind their children and who want them to do well but my not necessarily be able to afford private school. University Academy, Foriegn Language Academy, and Borderstar are just a few. Not to mention the multiple parishes with fine schools where students can attend on a tithing basis (Vis, St. Peters, etc). It's not that hard.

Rogue

Four words Gene: "Community Activisits"; "Teacher's Unions".

 
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