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May 06, 2008

Kudos for Carter

Michelle Malkin’s commentary on Jimmy Carter (4/25, Opinion) has to be the most mean-spirited and narrow-minded column she has ever written.

Former President Carter and the Carter Center have done more to foster world peace and brotherhood than the saber-rattling far right ever dreamed of doing.

The policy of our State Department, confronting our adversaries with a peace sign in one hand and a saber in the other, is just not working. President Bush and Condoleezza Rice need to begin greeting the world with an open heart and mind and forgo their supper egos and hidden agendas. They need to stop talking out of both sides of their mouths and put politics aside if they are truly seeking peace.

Bill Mace
Overland Park

Comments

Engineer

jack
On the other hand he did nothing to try to correct them.

jack

Eng: I liked Ford. I voted for Ford. Thought he did the best that could be done with the crock he got handed. I was also never a fan of Carter.

At the same time, I don't think he "caused" the economic problems during his term. The economic problems had started at least under Ford.

Engineer

jack
I was speaking of "in my life time". It is difficult and perhaps unfair to make judgments on Ford, a man thrust unexpectedly into a partial term and without the personal cadre that all presidential candidates have. I am a Civil War buff. I have always thought that although Buchanan was ineffective, there was little that he could have done hat would have been effective. I believe Grant to be the greatest general this Country has ever produced. But his fault as President was that he believed in people and trusted them to do the right thing.

jack

And now we are going to find out what happens to a nation that doesn't pay it's bills for a very long time.

Casady

A couple of theories abound about the economic condition of this country in the 1970s. Personally, I subscribe to the theory that whoever is president doesn't have much to do with economic cycles. As Jack pointed out, we were in a pretty and we finally bottomed out in bad recession in 75/76, and then again in '79, and we finally bottomed out in '82 (remind me again who was president in '82? Oh yeah, that guy I used to work for). IMO, Ford and Carter inherited a message that was fueled by the rising cost of oil compounded with the fact that we financed the Viet Nam war by making money rather than taxation or debt. The result was incredibly high inflation couple with recession after the Viet Nam War was over. Combine that with the fact that the Fed did not have a handle on the lag factor that accompanied open market operations until the 1980s and you have less than stellar economic conditions. So while I agree that Carter was ineffective, I also feel that it was not entirely his fault.

jack

Sorry about the double post. Been getting a lot of failure message when I hit the post button lately. Sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't.

jack

Irresolute and ineffective. Yep, Millard Filmore level. Engineer, I would think you would remember the "stagflation" under Ford. The country was in a monumental recession before Carter took office. He didn't make it worse. He didn't make it better. He accomplished nothing.

We have had far worse. The corruption (and other stuff) of reconstruction under Grant. The incompetance of Buchanon at the cusp of the Civil War.

I doubt even the bragging, stupidity of the current President. He who should be cheered because in 2007 he followed the advice he had been given, but was too stubborn to follow, four years earlier, doesn't measure up to some of the faux pas of some of the Presidents past.

Personally, I am frustrated to the point of giving up. How many times in a row can I go to the polls, pull the lever for the "lesser of two evils" and say to myself, "We've survived bad Presidents before"?

jack

Irresolute and ineffective. Yep, Millard Filmore level. Engineer, I would think you would remember the "stagflation" under Ford. The country was in a monumental recession before Carter took office. He didn't make it worse. He didn't make it better. He accomplished nothing.

We have had far worse. The corruption (and other stuff) of reconstruction under Grant. The incompetance of Buchanon at the cusp of the Civil War.

I doubt even the bragging, stupidity of the current President. He who should be cheered because in 2007 he followed the advice he had been given, but was too stubborn to follow, four years earlier, doesn't measure up to some of the faux pas of some of the Presidents past.

Personally, I am frustrated to the point of giving up. How many times in a row can I go to the polls, pull the lever for the "lesser of two evils" and say to myself, "We've survived bad Presidents before"?

Engineer

jack
If we are talking about presidents in my life time, Carter was by far the most irresolute and ineffective. Under his watch the country was in by far the worst financial state that it had been since WWII took us out of the "Great Depression".

jack

Carter the worst? He has some stiff competition for that title. I doubt even our current prez could meet the stupidity of Buchanon leading up to the Civil War or the corruption under U.S. Grant. Then there was Harding and Hoover. All pretty stiff competition for "worst".

Nah, Carter will be treated historically much like Millard Filmore and Martin Van Buren. Basically forgotten.

Casady

Katman

While I think Carter was a less than desirable president, your recollection on interest rates and the correction of 1987 is totally off base. Thanks to the monetary policies of Paul Volker (a Carter appointee BTW), interest rates had dropped significantly by 1987 and inflation was in check. The 500 point drop in October of 1987 was a mere correction in reaction to junk bond financing that boiling to the surface. The market to it's previous levels in less than a year.

To tie the 1987 correction to interest rate and inflation from 5 - 7 years indicated that you have little understanding of the financial markets during that period.

Rogue

anyone who thinks Carter is some sort of great humanitarian, is, and I repeat, an idiot. End of story.

katman

I'll start with my two personal rules of'unfettered' postings. (1)attack the message, not the messenger (2)keep it pithy.

J. Carter gets my vote as the absolute worst President in the past century. He permitted 52 American hostages held in Iran for 444 days. His economic policies resulted in 18-20% interest rates leading to a stock market crash in 1987.

Talk about all his humanitarian efforts afterwards. They don't begin to offset a miserable Presidential term. He needs to know when to keep his mouth shut but will never listen & learn.

KATMAN

Rogue

Bill you are a bigger idiot than Jimma. What is going to do now, give Hamas nukes like he did to N. Korea?

 
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