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July 17, 2008

U.S.-Iran relations

Lee Judge’s cartoon (7/12, Opinion) depicting the U.S. threatening Iran is hilarious, if your sense of humor appreciates sedition. To be fair, Judge would have to show the forces and material moving from Iran into Iraq to sustain the insurgency that we all would like to see ended. Leaving that out of his cartoon was dishonest.

While it would be initially unpopular and controversial and has not been openly discussed, the simple solution to the quagmire in Iraq might be to attack Iran. They seem to want a confrontation with the U.S.

They have funded, supplied and assisted in staffing the Iraqi insurgency, and it would be better to engage Iran now than after they develop nuclear weapons.

Mike Wheeler
Kansas City

Comments

Jim

Eng,

Mccain's ridiculous assertion that the Baghdad market he toured with body armor, dozens of guards, armored humvees and blackhawks overhead was entirely "safe," and proof of the surge's success would qualify as a dog and pony show, especially since on his last visit that same market was deemed too dangerous to visit even with that amount of protection earlier this year when he went there. But at least he won't be holding highbrow political fundraisers while overseas like Mccain did.

Besides, you don't even know Obama's itinerary while there, so your characterization is really nothing more than parroting the rightwing talking points a few days too early.

Engineer

Jim
And just what so you call Obama’s proposed dog and pony show on Iraq? It always seemed obvious to me that whatever Obama was saying at least a good part of what he was thinking was "PHOTO OP".

Jim

Eng,

That's funny, because you've been deriding him for months for calling for negotiations without preconditions, not for "photo-ops." And now that Bush has adopted the same policy, it's simply too much to say you think he's wrong as well. Instead, you move the goalposts by making things up.

Pub 17

Once again, Engineer, you set up a lose- lose situation. If Obama doesn't go to Iraq he can't possibly know what he's talking about. If he goes to Iraq it's a sham. Brilliant strategem!

Engineer

Jim
Obama's original commitments weren't commitments to diplomacy; they were ro setting up photo ops. You know like the elaborate one he is setting up re Iraq, complete with tame TV anchors.

whispering_to_kc

"We" don't suck. Just "you". "You" suck big time.

McCain singing to the old Beach Boys tune:

Bom, bom, bom.
Bom, bom Riyadh ...

Jim

Bush has now flipped over to a position of diplomacy with Iran without preconditions, the very policy he said was "appeasement" not long ago. He's gone from being dead wrong to being right. Funny how adopting Obama's policies will do that.

Now Bush is adopting Obama's policy of withdrawl from Iraq, a few days after McCain also flipped and adopted the Obama policy. Of course, in order to not be embarrassed by embracing something he called "surrender" this whole time, he had to tweak the language:

"In the area of security cooperation, the President and the Prime Minister agreed that improving conditions should allow for the agreements now under negotiation to include a general time horizon for meeting aspirational goals -- such as the resumption of Iraqi security control in their cities and provinces and the further reduction of U.S. combat forces from Iraq. The President and Prime Minister agreed that the goals would be based on continued improving conditions on the ground and not an arbitrary date for withdrawal."

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2008/07/20080718.html

Surrender and appeasement all in the same week? What's gotten into Bush?

Pub 17

Wow, begin a three-front war when we're losing a two-front war! Go get 'em, von Clausewitz!

BTW, take the time and effort to look up all those big Latin-root words before you use them incorrectly and look foolish: 'sedition,' for starters.

Rogue

Yep thanks Horsey, see folks it is and always will be "America's Fault", because we suck, don't you know?

Michele-America Sucks-Obama could not have said it better Horsey!

whispering_to_kc

Isn't it actually the Saudis who are arming the Iraqi insurgency? And didn't they also attack us on 911?

The simple solution to the quagmire in Iraq might be to attack Saudi Arabia. They seem to want a confrontation with the U.S.

The first time we had a confrontation with the Iranians was back in the 50s when we deposed their unfriendly civilian leadership and substituted a dictator who was friendly to us. They can't still be sore over that, can they?

 
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