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November 24, 2008

California’s ‘gay backlash’

How dare they inform their people of the names of those who vote against their rights! How dare they identify those who contribute money for the purpose of denying equal protection under the law!

Those who picket and protest businesses that support discrimination should be thrown in jail. Acts of civil disobedience should not be allowed. Oh, wait — Martin Luther King Jr., Rosa Parks, Malcolm X — that’s who these people are.

Michelle Malkin (11/21, Opinion, “California’s gay backlash shows who haters are”) wants those in the gay community to not use the same successful tactics that were used by the black community. The oppressed have few tools to fight the establishment. So if some businesses feel the pinch of protests, some people are embarrassed by their names being published or a few people are frightened by the intense anger the gay community is feeling, too bad. Maybe they should have thought more before they supported the disenfranchisement of a minority in our free country.

The gay community will continue to fight, by whatever means we think appropriate, until this country wakes up and joins the rest of the civilized world in treating gays and lesbians as full and equal citizens.

Michael D. Jones
Prairie Village

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Education is a progressive discovery of our own ignorance.

EL

Every law discriminates against someone.
The supreme court in 1972 ruled that states can regulate marriage.
I personally don't care who marries who.

But if gay marriage is a civil right then so is the right to marry a brother or sister.

Darren Bradley

I am one who believes that the blatant discrimination based on sexual orientation IS the civil rights movement of this decade. With that in mind, try to imagine the idea of repealing the Civil Rights Act of 1964. I would hope that most people find that notion ludicrous. So, now fast forward twenty or thirty years. How will future generations scrutinize our motives and the wisdom of our legislative choices regarding the private lives of adults? Call me what you want, but I firmly believe that History is what judges a people, not God.

NoMoreMrNiceGuy

Pub the issue was voted on and failed. End of story until next round. BTW - The right to own a gun CAN be taken away although that is unconstitutional. The ONLY tiime that right should be able to be stripped is if oyu committ a violent crime or a crime with a weapon. Marriage is between husband and wife not hisband and husband. Who will be who in family court?

EL


Posted by: dolcemusica1

"If one wants to bring religion into it (which would be for church weddings - not civil ceremonies), homosexuality is mentioned in the Old Testament but not the New Testament"
It is mentioned 5 times in the NT and each time is listed as a sin.------------

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EL

Heterosexuals can marry the person of their choosing, assuming both parties are consenting adults.

Posted by: anonymousposter
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NOT TRUE.
Siblings cannot marry.
3 or 4 people cannot marry each other.
A married man cannot marry again while he is married.
There are several other marriage restrictions.

anonymousposter

Gays do not have the same rights as heterosexuals. Heterosexuals can marry the person of their choosing, assuming both parties are consenting adults. Gays cannot. Can anyone give me one good reason why they shouldn't be able to? (Other than, "It makes me uncomfortable.")

Jim

Great questions, dolce. Not that any of the anti-equality crowd will answer them. I never "chose" to be gay, anymore than any heterosexual "chose" to be straight. It's hilarious to hear people hold court on something they have no personal knowledge of and act as if their perspective is the only true one.

dolcemusica1

If God made two individuals of the same sex gay - who are we to question God's creations?

If one wants to bring religion into it (which would be for church weddings - not civil ceremonies), homosexuality is mentioned in the Old Testament but not the New Testament nor is it mentioned in the 10 Commandmants. However, at least 50% of all spouses have committed a sin listed in the 10 commandmants (adultery) yet we have no laws against it, no criminal consequences - even divorces are considered no fault. Doesn't make sense to deny those who were born gay to be married when the majority of the married heterosexuals do not show respect for the sanctity - does it? Seems a bit hypocritical to me.

Anne

EL,

Mr. Jones said, "...wakes up and joins the rest of the CIVILIZED world...".

He wasn't talking about all the countries still stuck in the dark ages, the ones that still support the death penalty, the ones whose governments rules by religious fiat.

Which I'm guessing you would like in our country.

T. Hanson

"Of course all of this relies on the fact that God is a part of your picture..."

Is this the same God that allows you to marry multiple wives? Or is this the one that forces your brother's wife to marry you after your brother dies?

repete

Here's a good test of what's right and wrong: If I benefit from "Issue A" I will probably support it. If "A" is harmful to me I will probably oppose it. If "A" has absolutely no impact on my life I am agnostic. If "A" has no impact on my life, "A" causes no harm and others benefit from "A", then I support it.

This applies to gun ownership and homosexual marriage. That is why I am pro-gun and pro-gay marriage. Anyone who opposes either does so not due to any pragmatic position, but on *ideological* grounds.

Mark Robertson

Even if it were a "fact," are humans part of the "animal kingdom?" Do humans not have the ability to make rational decisions on right and wrong?
Population control? I thought abortion and contraception take care of that. Do animals have abortions or use contraception?
According to your theory,I guess God must have created the human race knowing that it would overpopulate, even though he created it, so he had to make some have same sex attraction. Would it not have been just as easy for him to create some who had no sex attraction?
Of course all of this relies on the fact that God is a part of your picture. Thankyou.

Mark Robertson
Independence

dolcemusica1

Mark - You and I are going to disagree on this issue. It's a fact that approximately 3-5% of each species in the animal kingdom are BORN gay and approximately 8-10% are bisexual. Scientists haven't discovered why yet but they do believe it's nature's way of making sure the species doesn't overpopulate.

Based on that FACT, if most gays are born GAY (may have some who are bisexual but have had bad experiences with the opposite sex and chose to have a gay relationship instead) - isn't that the same as someone born BLACK, etc? So, doesn't that make it a type of discrimination when those who were born heterosexual can marry but those who are born gay can't?

I'm heterosexual but I do have a few gay friends. I don't know of a single person who is 100% heterosexual who is in a gay relationship - only those who were born gay are in a gay relationship.

Mark Robertson

Opposing something called same sex marriage has nothing to do with the actual evil discrimination of someone because of the color of their skin.
As Jones demonstrates though, fraudulently putting the two on the same level is of course the strategy those misguided souls who support something called same sex marriage.
No matter what a leftist judge does, or for that matter, what a public or legislative vote brings about, marriage always has been and always will be between one man and one woman. Thankyou.

Mark Robertson
Independence

Marctnts

"UNLESS it was the Mormon Church funding anti-Prop. 8 activity. That remains to be seen."

Pub,

This is a common misconception. Religious organizations, organized as 501(c)3 by the IRS, are ALLOWED to endorse and campaign for (or against) ISSUES, they are only prohibited from engaging in this type of activity concerning CANDIDATES. For example, a Mormon church pastor could tell his congregation to vote against those who support abortion, but he can't tell them, by name, who they should vote for or against.

EL

""""The gay community will continue to fight, by whatever means we think appropriate, until this country wakes up and joins the rest of the civilized world in treating gays and lesbians as full and equal citizens.

Michael D. Jones"""""

At least check facts.
6 countries allow gay marriage.
11 allow civil unions.
In over 50 countries gay sex is illegal, is some it has a death peanalty,.

Should the US join the majority of the world.

Jim

"They can live with a cantelope, or a fireplug, or sixteen "mates" if they desire."

Who's asking for that? Kee, how about basing your argument in something that's actually happening, not your wild-eyed personal fantasies and fetishes that we all wish you'd keep to yourself.

Kee

Gay "rights"? Huh, don't homosexuals have the right to marry? The majority of citizens do not think "marriage" should be defined as not just another "union". Laws were passed in three states the last election, and in MO a few years ago.

They can live with a cantelope, or a fireplug, or sixteen "mates" if they desire. The problem arises when society is "required to sanction" their behavior.

71% of Afro-Americans by the way did not consider it a matter of "civil rights" in California.

 
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