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November 22, 2008

Don’t blame the autoworkers

I always chuckle at how Americans are so quick to blame the United Auto Workers and its supporters for the fall of the Big Three. They say we are overpaid crybabies who don’t deserve what we have. If that is so why are there people lining up around the block to work for Ford?

The union should offer concessions, you say. Maybe you should look at the amount of concessions our union brothers have made, while the Big Three continue business as usual.

Let’s not blame poor management and inflated CEO benefits. Let’s blame the American working man!

Daniel Robertson
Member, United Auto Workers, Local 249
Kansas City

Comments

red rover

Too bad some of you couldn't come into the plants and try to pull a job and then tell us what our work is worth. We don't know what you do or how much you make, but how can we say we are overpaid? Perhaps you are overpaid, but how are we to judge?

NoMoreMrNiceGuy

What Jayhaw doesn't understand is that $41 per hour does not include the payroll, workers compensation and other taxation GM is required to pay as an employer.
If they loan or bailout the Big 3, there should eb a provision that union workers not be allowed to buy ANYTHING that is not union produced. If they loan the Big # the money, we will NEVER buy American again. In fact I will trade in my 2 American made vehicles and purposely buy foreign. Screw the UAW and theur thuggery! Unions are for whiners.

Pub 17

You're composing on the website? I bring over text by running a macro hard-coded into the text editor I designed for my OS/2 system. God told me to.

Is it Friday yet?

Stifled Freedom

Pub17, tell me where the spell check feature is on this website and I will be glad to use it.

And I will remember that you said this so don’t make a single mistake yourself from here on out. I will be watching.

Stifled Freedom

I found this quote in another letter that fits great.

“It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it.”

Pub 17

People Are Dumb, is it against the law on your planet to use SpellCheck?

Stifled Freedom

This letter is all flawed logic. He has spent too much time in Washington.

"They say we are overpaid crybabies who don’t deserve what we have. If that is so why are there people lining up around the block to work for Ford?"

Answer: To become an overpaid crybaby like you. That rhetorical question doesn't answer anything.

"while the Big Three continue business as usual"

Teeting on bankrupcty is not business as usual. The unions finally kill the goose that laid the golden egg....and they still dont realize it.

"Let’s not blame poor management and inflated CEO benefits. Let’s blame the American working man!"

Sarcasim should be reserved for commenters. Not in the letter itself. I took it wrong at first. Maybe I still have it wrong. If its not sarcasim, he really is nuts.

Pub 17

Of course not, because Rush left that part out. See what happens if you try to declare bankruptcy claiming as an expense your share of the national debt, or of future government deficits. Unless current workers are getting some benefit from the expenditure, the only people who believe that $70 figure are AM radio hosts. Oh-of course Toyo, Honda, Nissan, et al. don't have that load: they haven't been producing cars in this country for 75-100 years and thus have very, very few 70-year-old forty-year veterans on the books.

JayhawkinMO

The entire story has not been told about the $70-to-$75 hourly wage UAW members receive. Current employees are making about $41 an hour in wages and benefits. What hasn't been shared by the UAW critics is that the remaining $30 are legacy benefits, including healthcare, for retirees. And that doesn't include mgmt retirees who are losing their healthcare benies on Jan 1... GM and Ford employ about 7000 here in KC. The closure of those two plants would effect thousands more of our fellow residents... I say to those I see driving their Ford and GM pickups with UNION bumper stickers: Remember who are the most vocal critics of loans to Detroit. They're mostly southern Congressional Republicans...

NoMoreMrNiceGuy

The big quaetions is why do Toyaota, Honda and VW not have the financial problems the big 3 have? Why do we not hear about their employees striking and whining?

Marctnts

"They say we are overpaid crybabies who don’t deserve what we have. If that is so why are there people lining up around the block to work for Ford?"

Regardless of your opinion, the logic of the letter is flawed. Perhaps the reason people are "lining of around the block" is BECAUSE the compensation to be received is greater than the skill and/or effort required.

The union isn't innocent in the current situation, but they are by no means the only culprit. Blaming poor management, too-little investment in R&D, failure to recognize a shifting market, and infrastructure incapable of quickly meeting a shifting market would also be in order.

It would appear that neither party is willing to stick their neck out (without the support of the other) for something a large portion of the populace opposes. My guess is that we'll see bankruptcy reorganization (in some sort of pre-pack arrangement).

 
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