Follow McCain’s classy example

Lee Judge’s cartoon (11/6, Opinion) showing the White House with the caption “How many houses does John McCain own? One less than he thought” is just one more jab at an American hero.

No, John McCain will not be “owning” the White House, but neither will Barack Obama. The presidents are guests there during their time of service. In his concession speech, McCain was very gracious. It was an inspiring and well-written speech — the best concession speech ever, at least for the last three elections.

McCain was respectful in his loss. Unfortunately, The Star has decided to not do so in its victory. Yes, the media won. Their candidate was elected. To be so gloating is tasteless. To be a sore loser is one thing, but a sore winner is worse.

Let us respect the candidates, win or lose, for their service to democracy. May we all move forward to do our best for America.

Suzy Hartley
Edwardsville

Comments

[kcstar_is_one_sided]

"My point, one you simply ignore because of its inconvenience to your spin, is that Obama is inheriting something much worse than anything you excused Bush for all these years. And somewhere down the road (two years or so would be my guess), you'll talk about what a horrible job he's doing. Thanks to your most recent post, I'll have even more contradictory things to remind you that you said when that time comes."

No Jim -

I've stated on numerous occasions that both parties are at fault, I don't remember anything as non partisan coming from your posts. And I agree that Obama is inheriting a mess. The difference here is you wrongly and entirely blame Bush, while I blame both. Who's the partisan again? If he makes it better, I say good for him, but I am skeptical.

My other point is "what is good for the goose is good for the gander". If Obama does as he said, he is going to pull us into a depression and he will surely get the blame for what he does. But whatever happens, the current administration always gets the blame. You can claim that I am being partisan here, but I'm talking from a historical fact. Spin all you want Jim, it ain't going to matter.

[Marctnts]

Off topic, but interesting:

The Star just had another round of firings, and those that got canned include:

Hearne Christopher

Laura Scott

Lee Judge

Here's the link:

http://bottomlinecom.com/currentnews/bloodbathatkcstar.html

[Engineer]

Jim
My guess is that despite what Obama does, 2010 will be a rerun of 1994. If he does things that are perceived as being harmful, new records may be set.

[Jim]

*sigh*

This really is getting tiresome, KC Star.

You and others on here have stated in reaction to bad economic news several different defenses of Bush, from how things would be way worse without the tax cuts to the old "he inherited a recession from Clinton" line.

My point, one you simply ignore because of its inconvenience to your spin, is that Obama is inheriting something much worse than anything you excused Bush for all these years. And somewhere down the road (two years or so would be my guess), you'll talk about what a horrible job he's doing. Thanks to your most recent post, I'll have even more contradictory things to remind you that you said when that time comes.

[kcstar_is_one_sided]

"
KC Star,

You seem to be admitting that the lame excuse for Bush's horrible economic performance (it's all Clinton's fault) was deployed these last 8 years merely for political expediency. This admission is a little late, but I'm happy to see it just the same.
"

Sorry -

I don't understand your point but I'll tell you mine, because you always put your little spin on things and take them completely out of context. You can't help it though I suppose. Oh, and please find me a quote where I said it was all Clinton's fault and then we can play your little game.

As I've always said, there is not a whole lot the president can do about the economy. The market is good sometimes and bad other times. You can certainly influence it or you can force banks to make loans to people who can't repay it thus causing a total collapse ;). To blame it all on the Administration though is ridiculous. There are so many other factors in play, and both parties are at fault.

What I am saying though is that the normal citizen does in fact blame everything on the current administration. The other party will use this fact to get elected. And now Obama IS the administration that is going to have our country with the worst recession since the great depression. If the economy goes as well as I think it will, he'll be in and out in 4 years. His policies and favors he owes are sure to doom the economy and us.

I do hope that he sees this and makes the correct decisions. (Please note that I did not call the next president anything derogatory, demeaning, or otherwise nasty. I didn't say he looked like a chimp, was an idiot, was a nazi, or killed babies. I simply stated my opinion. You may not understand my comments because I didn't treat him the same way or use these terms that were used about Bush.)

[kcstar_is_one_sided]

"
KC Star,

You seem to be admitting that the lame excuse for Bush's horrible economic performance (it's all Clinton's fault) was deployed these last 8 years merely for political expediency. This admission is a little late, but I'm happy to see it just the same.
"

Sorry -

I don't understand your point but I'll tell you mine, because you always put your little spin on things and take them completely out of context. You can't help it though I suppose. Oh, and please find me a quote where I said it was all Clinton's fault and then we can play your little game.

As I've always said, there is not a whole lot the president can do about the economy. The market is good sometimes and bad other times. You can certainly influence it or you can force banks to make loans to people who can't repay it thus causing a total collapse ;). To blame it all on the Administration though is ridiculous. There are so many other factors in play, and both parties are at fault.

What I am saying though is that the normal citizen does in fact blame everything on the current administration. The other party will use this fact to get elected. And now Obama IS the administration that is going to have our country with the worst recession since the great depression. If the economy goes as well as I think it will, he'll be in and out in 4 years. His policies and favors he owes are sure to doom the economy and us.

I do hope that he sees this and makes the correct decisions. (Please note that I did not call the next president anything derogatory, demeaning, or otherwise nasty. I didn't say he looked like a chimp, was an idiot, was a nazi, or killed babies. I simply stated my opinion. You may not understand my comments because I didn't treat him the same way or use these terms that were used about Bush.)

[Pub 17]

When I first moved to Kansas City and realized the incredible legacy received from J.C. Nichols in terms of real estate improvements so solidly constructed as to actually depress current real estate prices, I couldn't understand why there wasn't a solid gold statue of this guy twenty feet high in the circle at Quality Hill.

OK, now I know. Crap.

[Jim]

KC Star,

You seem to be admitting that the lame excuse for Bush's horrible economic performance (it's all Clinton's fault) was deployed these last 8 years merely for political expediency. This admission is a little late, but I'm happy to see it just the same.

[solomon]

Great P.V. reference, the community that hate built.

Of course hate just meant no Jews, blacks, hispanics, Asians or non-Protestants.

[kcstar_is_one_sided]

"Um, I hate to keep bringing this up, but I have heard endless attempts to excuse Bush's lackluster economy by reminding us that he "inherited the Clinton recession" as recently as this year."

And I'm sure you'll do the same thing. I'm also sure that the Republican candidate will talk about 4 more years of the same, where you better 4 years ago, et al. And it will be the same result for the opposite side. Karma is a bitch.

[Pub 17]

Once again, Engineer, I will look very specifically at what Obama does with the advice he's getting from the people he's surrounding himself with. He will stand or fail on his ability to synthesize good advice from every quarter into action, versus trying to jam the world into some ideological Procrustean bed. VERY specifically, if I were you I'd be watching his Cabinet choices like a hawk.

solomon-
Seriously, look at one of the directories of Klan sites,usually under something like "Hate Directories" in Google. Makes you not want to leave the confines of Prairie Village Shopping Center.

[solomon]

C'mom Pub, you know the millions of hits those sites get are all by the same guy!!!

[Engineer]

In looking for role models. I think I'll adopt John Kerry "I can't believe that dumb S.O.B. beat me". Of course what Obama beat was a candidate that I don't believe had either his heart or his mind in the campaign. On the other hand, for my own sake and that of my family, I've got to hope that Obama does well in facing the very severe problems he will face. What bothers me is that the positive things a President and the government can do are limited, the negative things are much less so.

[Pub 17]

BTW, it's all Bill Clinton's fault.

[Pub 17]

kcstar-
You really want to exchange freak sites? Start with Klan, survivalist, and skinhead sites, and keep going till you make a left at Humansville, MO (the Knights are apparently in remission at the moment, but tomorrow is another day). In any case, apparently one of the right-wing blogs started this crap about the Democrats never accepting Bush as President, which doesn't address the fact that he had, I believe, the highest approval rating in Presidential history at one point. What more do you want? We needn't even go into the whole dubious nature of BOTH Bush elections, FL and Cuyahoga counties' little electoral pecadilloes.

[solomon]

This entire mess started with George Washington. We can blame and blame and blame all the way back to him.

At least he was smart enough to realize smoking pot wasn't something that should be subject to legislation.

[Jim]

"Oh year, and I learned from you that the current administration is charged with the fault of everything."

Um, I hate to keep bringing this up, but I have heard endless attempts to excuse Bush's lackluster economy by reminding us that he "inherited the Clinton recession" as recently as this year.

Even if one does accept that premise, I think it's safe to say Obama will inherit something much worse than Bush did. The economy will get worse before it gets better, to be sure. And two years from now, I expect to hear these same people wailing about how bad the economy is under Obama. I'll be happy to remind you of what he inherited and expect you to accept that and move on.

[kcstar_is_one_sided]

Hey Pub -

http://www.zombietime.com/hall_of_shame/

I was wondering where I could find something similar to this but only with the right performing it not the left?

[kcstar_is_one_sided]

Thanks Pub.

Just remember the winds change very quickly. Don't for a minute think that just because your won this time, you will next time as well.

I suggest you read my comments from several days ago, I notice you didn't comment on them. I stated at that time that I accept Obama as president and hope that he does well in leading the nation. I am hoping for the best but will voice my displeasure if warranted, not just from the beginning. This is directly contrary to how alot of Dems handled the election of Bush. You can try to rewrite history, but everyone is well aware that this same luxury was not not afforded to Bush. For your information, I haven't read alot in the paper where Republicans riot or throw fits after elections. Democrats seem to have a monopoly on that (look at Proposition 8)

In addition, I hope you keep posting as well, because it has already been documented that you are a liar.

Frankly, Obama has a real tough road in front of him. The economy is poor, and will get much worse if he proceeds to increase spending and starts his tax plan. If he runs from the left and not the center, I'd expect a big change 2 years from now. Oh year, and I learned from you that the current administration is charged with the fault of everything. That is one lesson I'll be sure to use in the future.

[Kate]

Gracious losers, Nov 2004. http://www.zombietime.com/sf_rally_november_3_2004/ (language warning)

The last pictures are a sobering reminder of an overlooked, soon-to-be-unemployed group, the GWB Effigy Makers. Where will they find work in our shrinking economy? After all, there are only so many community college teaching positions available.

[repete]

I agree that McCain's concession speech was as classy as can be. I intend to emulate Mr. McCain and try to be as good a winner as he was a loser. It's a pity so many in his and Palin's audience made clear in so many jeers and boos that the class he displayed in his speech is exceptional.

Why am I not surprised the formerly bad winners and currently bad losers are asking for the sort of class so many of them never showed? When I think of the results of this election I'll try to keep McCain in mind rather than Palin and her foaming conservative "base".

[T. Hanson]

Wow.. we can go on and on.. which we will for a long time. But I do remember a nice bumper sticker on a truck:

"Charles Heston is my president"

People believe what they want to believe

[Pub 17]

kcstar
ONE MORE ranter I'm going to ask to please, please, please keep posting, because you're the reason Obama got elected. You really seem to think that there's lots and lots of people out there who don't remember that Bush's approval rating was over 90% at one point. Amazing. You feel no shame at spewing nonsense like, "And many Dems refused to accept Bush as president." Nine percent? Or is it that once having "accepted" him, Democrats (and Republicans, including Sarah Palin) can't change their minds based on job performance? I wish you well, yours for a blue, blue nation.

[kcstar_is_one_sided]

"The Republicans gloated and crowed for months after the last two elections. So I'll tell you what they said then ...

GET OVER IT!"

And many Dems refused to accept Bush as president. Which is worse?

[viet-vet1970]

One cartoonist is not "the media" Suzy, which you'd know if you didn't let talk radio do you thinking for you.

And "To be so gloating is tasteless."

My, my what a short memory you have. The Republicans gloated and crowed for months after the last two elections. So I'll tell you what they said then ...

GET OVER IT!