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December 21, 2008

Casino law costs Kansas jobs

Rick Alm really nailed it in his article on the flawed Kansas casino law (12/9, Business, “Kansas’ casino law should be tossed”). How stupid can the lawmakers be not to allow slots at the Woodlands and put 500 people to work, plus the revenue that the state would receive?

Our Kansas lawmakers sit around crying about the budget shortage but refuse to put people to work and generate revenue from the track. These so-called lawmakers should go up to Council Bluffs to the dog track and see how many people from Kansas City are there.

Get your heads out of the sand, Kansas lawmakers, and generate some revenue for the state, or start looking for another soft job you can screw up if you’re still in office after the next election.

Ralph Swanson



Here's something for you to use your Google Phd on, Pubic 17:

Name 12 scopes of work involved in power industry maintenance.

Name 9 scopes involved in refinery turn arounds.

Bonus question, this one is worth an additional 20% upload onto your EBT card, this one is in another area of your expertise:

Name 3 scopes of bridge repair


Wind generation as a supplemental source of energy, it cannot replace additional baseload generation. Because wind is intermittent, it must be accompanied by baseload generation of some sort and currently is paired for the most part with natural gas because it is more efficient to power down and power up a gas-fired generator than to do so with a coal generator.

However, to have the capacity to produce much more wind generation, Kansas will need additional transmission lines from west to east and south to north.

It is more difficult to financially justify building transmission lines for wind alone, as that would make the wind prohibitively expensive. For transmission lines to be financially viable, they need to move energy from baseload generation as well as wind generation.

So what does this mean for us? In today's tight capacity environment, wholesale contracts to municipal electric utilities and rural electric cooperatives, such as Midwest, only might be available on a year-to-year basis. This situation presents two significant risks.

First, there is no assurance a one-year contract will be renewed.

Second and more importantly, the Southwest Power Pool (the agency that regulates electric transmission in our area of the nation) now requires firm transmission service contracts be at least five years long if the buyer wants to preserve its rights to transmission. So buying power under a one-year contract means the utility might be denied firm transmission service.

The bottom line is Kansas is short of baseload generating capacity, and we are short of transmission capacity in the larger region. We no longer can rest on the assumption that yearly transmission service will be available even if the utility has a power supplier.


Pubic I can answer the question in regards to the "difference" in jobs.
While wind turbine ercetion requires less skilled trades, it does much needed labor forces many of which are experiencing shirtages in available labor. You assume I am opposed to wind power or any alternative pwoer source to coal, not true and I have never stated that. We must implement all sources that are viable. What I am attempting to have the avergae and not so average consumer that believes PEBO when he takes alcim to being THE innovator of green power is that we have been implementing rather heavily in these areas of energy for some time now. Also as Engineer provides, Wind and Solar are NOT base loadable energy sources. There is a global consumption problem of which we must address. Unfortunately many of those that whine the most about "green" power also consume without regard, discipline or the willingness to sacrifice a small fraction of THEIR world to help the situation. They simply want governemnt to fix all their problems and expect someone else to pay for it. You should stick to your area of expertise, economics, law, history, and search engine education models.


Pub 17
The problem is that wind power is not generally suitable for the base load. If you installed your windmills over the entire midwest with a total capacity of 5 to 10 times base load, and with a massive transmission grid, then it might work. But obviously it would be a very expensive system and the usable power produced would have a very high unit cost.

Pub 17

So you CAN'T answer the question, and try to fumfer your way out.

Try it again: what's the difference between a job created by wind power and a job created by coal power, since YOU framed your objection to Sebelius' action in terms of jobs created?


Apparently you do not understand the entire process of energy delivery you dolt.
The same morons that do not want refineries, power plants, corporations, have absolutely no problem consuming.
You best rid yourself of tires, plastic anything, electronics, Rx, food stuffs, turn off your Blu-ray, all of those are consumptive.
You think: Put wind turbine, power happen.
What part of efficiency do you not comprehend? So what area of the energy sector you work in again? Filthy? How so?
I suppose you are not up on AQCS compliance. (Come on, use your Google Cum Laude). I wold be a site to see us attempt to go 100% wind, what would the Bono's and Madonna's do when they have to cancel their concerts due to blackouts and infrastructure failure.
Your answer is raise taxes, consume more, shutdown all enterprise, stand in line at the government distribution center. Commie.

Pub 17

Now, what's the difference between the jobs created by that coal plant, almost all of whose electricity was planned to be sold to states that didn't want the filthy thing on THEIR land, and the jobs created by the wind turbines?

Oh, PLEASE tell me that the coal plant would create more jobs per kilowatt--that'd mean higher costs than wind, right?


Pub I those wind turbines are just fine and we are doing plenty, unfortunatley the cost of delivery is greater and their efficiency is about 68% at best. Renewables are great fir augmenting but hardly practicle for a stand alone source. Let me guess, you are ALSO an expert in the energy arena? I keep forgetting about your Phd from Google Univeristy. How many billions of dollars in projects have you been invloved in regarding energy and infrastructure?

Pub 17

First, is the letter writer from Independence MO or KS?

Second, why go all the way to Council Bluffs? Just go right down Highway 69 to Pittsburg and see how well the dog track works down there.


If I remember correctly, the situation had nothing to do with being allowed to operate slot machines (which they were). There were issues with how much the new law required they split with the state, and how quickly the machines could be installed once the issues were resolved.

Pub 17

Good one, Nice Guy. Those wind generators just put themselves in the ground and never, never, never never need service, just like a Quasar TV.


Regardless of the law, their budget will always be short. The more you give them to spend the more they will spend, actually the they will spend as much as they choose to then expect the taxpayers to pick up the tab. It is hypocritical how the BIble Thumpers point their fingers at gambling and drinking however do not have a problem with millionaire, lavish lifestyles for evangelists. Casinos in ugly river front settings is equally as lame. Kansas City should relocate the casino's downtown as that would drive much more spending in that district plus reduce the propensity of drinking and driving. Just like the knucklehead governor that complains about job growth then disallows a much needed clean coal power plant in far out SW Kansas that would have created svereal hundred jobs plus an interim of about 2000 skilled labor trades.


Expecting common sense from the Kansas Legislature is really spitting in the wind.
William Allen White's query "What's the matter with Kansas?" comes to mind every time one looks over the majority leadership.
Is there something in the air or water that causes voters to elect people who make the Luddites seem enlightened?
Too many office seekers in Kansas espouse conservative values and wear religion on their sleeves to win votes, then establish a power base and end up telling people what to do. Do they secretly envy the Taliban?
A British diplomat once commented, after being asked about sectarian violence in northern Ireland: "The problem in northern Ireland is that there are three million Catholics, one million Protestants but no Christians." He seems to be saying that there is a life after Church and Sunday School.
Religion should be treated like single malt Scotch: Use when needed but don't let it consume your life.

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