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January 21, 2009

Bush can’t compare to Truman

You can’t compare Harry Truman and George W. Bush (1/18, A-1, “History’s big bounce”).

Truman volunteered to serve during World War I, but Bush avoided service in the Vietnam War. Truman endured vicious slurs from Joseph McCarthy as being soft on communism. Bush slurred his opponents as being soft on terrorism.

Truman oversaw the creation of the United Nations and NATO. He relied on a U.N. mandate to support the Korean War. Bush bypassed the U.N. and NATO and instead relied on a small, handpicked coalition to support the war in Iraq.

Truman fought aggressively for civil rights, labor unions and national health insurance. He was honest and ethical in all his dealings and lived by the motto “The buck stops here.” Truman was everything Bush is not.

If you want to compare Bush to any former president, compare him to Richard Nixon.

Steve Simon
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Comments

jack

Bush is gone. For all the harm caused by his incompetance, there is nothing left to be said to him other than, "Hope your phony ranch sells quickly and you enjoy your new digs in Dallas. Goodby and good ridance."

Time to move on with cleaning up the mess he left.

Engineer

Jim & Marctnts
Good posts, both of you.

Jim

I'm no Bush fan, but this kind of stuff is pointless unless you have a time machine and have seen the future. Whether you agree with him or not, it's impossible to know what "history" will say about this presidency. All we can bet on is that it will be debated for decades to come. Controversial presidencies always are.

Marctnts

"By the way, any of you who actually think Bush will be vindicated by history or will rise in estimation are seriously delusional."

You seem to be missing the point. Whether or not YOU think that Bush's post-presidency ratings will rise, history may judge differently, and only time will tell.

Truman left office with a lower approval than Bush (32 vs 34), mired in the Korean War. If you would have asked most people at the time, they would have NEVER guessed he would one day be listed in the top-ten. I doubt that history will be as kind to Bush, but I'm smart enough to know that there's really no telling how he'll do.

NoMoreMrNiceGuy

Yeah and George Washington was a slave owner, who cares. These bafoon politicians do as they please, especially the modern day clowns. Obama is no different.

solomon

Good afternoon maxiemom,

It was a reference to Thomas Dewey, as its been said Truman won the election "by a mustache"

maxiemom

Solomon: What mustache??????? By the way, James Buchanan is rated the worst president of all time, since he's the one who could've prevented the Civil War, but did NOTHING, instead leaving the festering problem for Lincoln. He simply sat by and twiddled his thumbs.

By the way, any of you who actually think Bush will be vindicated by history or will rise in estimation are seriously delusional. Either that, or you simply haven't been paying attention to what's been going on in this country for the last 8 years, and the complete wreck Bush has made of almost everything he's touched.

solomon

The only real debate is how Truman would have fared on HD television. Last president to sport a mustache wasn't he?

Am I the only guy who could not takes his eyes away (honestly trying hard to) from the left nostril make-up bugger on President Bush during his 15 minute farewell last Thursday. Watching it on my 56 inch HD was .....

His was a very warm, take responsibility/let history be my judge and love you guys speech, but the distraction ruined it for me. The person who did his make up did our country a disservice , and gets a 0% job approval from me.

Mrs Truman in HD? huhuhhurhuiuhhruhrh

NoMoreMrNiceGuy

Polls reflect a very very very very very smal fraction of the population. One yesterday was based on 853 people, hardly reflective of reality.

NoMoreMrNiceGuy

Polls reflect a very very very very very smal fraction of the population. One yesterday was based on 853 people, hardly reflective of reality.

NoMoreMrNiceGuy

Polls reflect a very very very very very smal fraction of the population. One yesterday was based on 853 people, hardly reflective of reality.

Marctnts

Sorry, but I figure the GALLUP POLL would be the most consistent measure available (with the longest history), and according to it, the numbers are both 34%.

Pub 17

And according to the NYT/CBS poll, the last one I'd seen,

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/17/us/politics/17poll.html?_r=2&hp

22% and 44%, Bush and Carter, respectively.

NoMoreMrNiceGuy

Labor unions are thugs, and how many people did Truman kill with atomic weapons?

Marctnts

"Well, we're starting out with his leaving office with one-half the approval rating that Jimmy Carter did."

Pub,

Not true. According to the referenced article written Saturday, Bush's Gallup exit rating was 34%, which is exactly the same as Carters exit rating of 34%.

Here's the list of approval ratings upon exit, in case you don't want to look it up:

Clinton: 66%
Reagan: 63%
Bush 43: 34%
Carter: 34%
Truman: 32%
Nixon: 24%

solomon

They did not keep the figure then, but Andrew Johnson probably had the worst presidency of all time.

Pub 17

On exit, Carter was 44%, Bush at 22%.

Oh, go ahead, make something up, it calms your coffee nerves.

mianotkia

Carter was @ 29%, Bush is @14.5%? I don't think so....

Pub 17

Well, we're starting out with his leaving office with one-half the approval rating that Jimmy Carter did. It can only go up from here.

 
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