Bush hasn’t kept U.S. safe

I am hearing a lot of talk about President Bush’s legacy, and some have suggested that he should be credited for keeping America safe after 9/11 because there wasn’t a second attack. The U.S. was not attacked after 9/11 because the terrorists had nothing to gain by a second attack.

The stated goal of the terrorists was to draw attention to the unjust foreign policy of the United States, especially its disregard for the suffering of the Palestinians. The Bush administration responded in an irrational, dishonest and immoral way that only reinforced the message sent by the terrorists on 9/11.

Over the past eight years the terrorists have won more hearts and minds than the Bush administration. The conditions that breed terrorism are increasing rather than decreasing, especially in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Palestine.

Sympathy for Palestine and resentment of Israel and the United States continues to grow. Tragically, the “Mission Accomplished” sign might belong to Osama bin Laden rather than George Bush.

Rebecca Brock
Kansas City, Kan.

Comments

[Engineer]

solomon
Since when is an ambush not a battle? Catching your enemy unprepared and taking advantage of his mistakes have always been excellent military tactics. You forgot to complain that it was damp and rainy and the bowstrings of the auxiliary troops, usually so effective against the German tribesmen, were wet and mostly useless. Arminius was an effective war leader who pushed the Romans back over the Rhine and effectively kept them there.

[solomon]

Engineer,

You are giving your usual pass to someone who doesn't offend you. A backstabber today and one 2000 years ago is still a liar. Also the battle of the black forest was not a battle, as it was an ambush in which the legions were stretched out for miles single file and womaen and children were slain along with the soldiers.

I call them like I see them, just like I don't approve of the bombs you purchased hitting the UN school in Gaza today. Then again, I did not approve of our welfare bombs that fell on the UN facility 2 summers ago from Israeli (oops, welfare) planes.

Maybe the UN deserves it, as they are the ones who said that it was ok for the American citizens and Europeans citizens to carve out a nation where they weren't wanted.

hamas is wrong here, but that does not make Israel right.

[Pub 17]

Nice Guy needs a Breathalyzer on his keyboard. This is now officially embarrassing.

[TinaMcG]

NMMNG, do us all a favor. Stop responding to my posts. Don't try to answer my questions. You don't enlighten; you just spew the same yadayadayada from one thread to the next.

Thanks in advance.

[NoMoreMrNiceGuy]

TinaG, there was such a thing as foreclosures before Barney Frank looked the pther way and lenders were forced to make high risk loans. How much did you contribute to your 401K? How much is it worth minus how much YOU contributed. You have Social Security as every good socialist Democrat wants. Blame unions and their thuggery on top of greed for mfg going elsewhere. Affordable housing and increasing values negate one another.
The percentage of people that default on their mortgages is a very small percenat as is the number that are unemployed. Healthcare access? Readily available. If you can make it to FootLocker, you can make it to the docs office. How many people DO have health insurance?

[NoMoreMrNiceGuy]

LBJ won even more than Bush. Hear about the pamphley being circulated in Indonesia calling Obama a traitor? What happened to the tea party sit downs and cush cush grab a$$ session PSBO said would work?
We never had any enemies before Bush was in office.

[Engineer]

solomon
You are making your usual mistake of judging a historical figure by today's standards. If you are raised as a hostage a reasonable person does all he can to get along with those who hold him. And it was a military expedition and the destruction of the 17th , 18th and 19th Legions was probably the worst defeat Rome ever experienced in Northern Europe. After that Arminius fought Rome for years with a large measure of success. In the part of Texas where my wife grew up you still see the signs of the fraternal order "The Sons Of Hermann" in many places.

[Pub 17]

sIGH. Doggie Diner pastrami sandwiches, only Zippy the Pinhead and I remember...
Forty years ago this place was more fun than anybody could imagine. Golden Point 12¢ hamburgers washed down with a 15¢ A&W from over on E. 14th St. Managgia...

[solomon]

Looks about 6'2" and 100 kilos worth of signage to me.

[Pub 17]

Your wiener dog in a bunch?

http://whatimseeing.com/upload/doggie_diner.jpg

[solomon]

Reggufibber(TM)

You have become boring again today. Regardless of what an ancient historians opinion of the man is, you have not disputed the facts, Arminius made a treaty with the Romans against other German tribes, then switched alliances and ambushed men women and children who were on an almost single file non military excursion through the woods, killing and raping and essentially by treachery destroyed the contingent. You, with your knowledge of the battle, can not dispute those circumstances, nor have you attempted to.

That makes him a hero to the Germanic people, that makes him a two-faced dog to me. So you can quit calling me ignorant because I can recognize a treacherous act and judge it for what it truly was and you've got your wiener dog all in a bunch over the facts..

[Pub 17]

Then direct it, Pansy Yokum. You're the one who came on this blog and started flexnuts exercises. Idiot.

[Arminius]

solomon:

"none of that changes that your idol turned on his allies and murdered men, women and children. He did exactly what I said he did, and all the respect from an ancient writer means diddly"

That you would consider the writings of Tacitus "diddly" only adds credence to my contention that you are extremely ignorant.

"...but if it makes you feel tough to talk tough thats your perogative."

That comment would be more appropriately directed at Pub17.

[Pub 17]

Naw, Arminius never challenged me to a physical fight. He drew a line in the sand in his sandbox, to get my e-mail address, and to avoid saying something on this blog that would get him banned permanently no matter what avatar he used. What a complete and utter fool.

No, there wouldn't be much of a fight, Arminius. I've got a pair of pants with a Marine's tablecloth attached that I still fit into, you seagoing bellhop. Take that Marine b.s. to someone who thinks Marines are keen.

[solomon]

Forgive me for thinking you were challenging someone through your keyboard. As far as your size I've seen little guys stomp six foot 100 kilo guys into mudholes, but if it makes you feel tough to talk tough thats your perogative.

none of that changes that your idol turned on his allies and murdered men, women and children. He did exactly what I said he did, and all the respect from an ancient writer means diddly.

[Arminius]

solomon:

"I never addressed the letter, which I agree is of little substance. I addressed the guy who challenged Pub to a physical fight, while using the name of a lying traitorous piece of crap."

I never challenged Pub 17 to a physical fight. He (as well as Jim) accused me of being a coward. I merely invited Pub and Jim to e-mail me to set up a time to discuss my cowardice. I'm 6' 2", 210 lbs., and a former Marine, so it is very unlikely that there could ever be much of a physical fight.

"And we all know that most nations were at one time barbaric, but the guy this man thinks was valorous was anything but."

Arminis "completed thrith-seven years of life, twelve years of power, and he is still a theme of song among barbarous nations, though to Greek historians, who admire only their own achievements, he is unknown, and to Romans not as famous as he should be, while we extol the past and are indifferent to our own times." - Tacitus "The Annals"

Quite frankly, solomon, Tacitus has much, much more credibility regarding Arminius than some little "anonymouse" on this forum.

"They revere Genghis Khan in Mongolia, but I think you'd agree he was a vicious killer. Arminius was a traitorous POS and I enjoy reminding this guy."

Arminius' brother, Flavus, was the traitor. As I noted earlier, he joined the Romans for a necklace, a crown, and more pay.

Again, your ignorance is a full display here.

[solomon]

BTW slime worshiper, You've never seen me criticize Bush except that I disagree with the Iraq occupation as imperialistic and the BK re-write that he pushed for to the benefit of his largest contributor, Wells Fargo. He has always been my President and I have never spoken of him with disrespect.

[solomon]

Engineer,

I never addressed the letter, which I agree is of little substance. I addressed the guy who challenged Pub to a physical fight, while using the name of a lying traitorous piece of crap.

And we all know that most nations were at one time barbaric, but the guy this man thinks was valorous was anything but. They revere Genghis Khan in Mongolia, but I think you'd agree he was a vicious killer. Arminius was a traitorous POS and I enjoy reminding this guy.

[Arminius]

solomon:

As I noted, you're becoming increasingly incoherent.

And, once again, you have failed to defend your fellow moonbat's letter to the editor.

[Engineer]

solomon
Hard as I try, I cannot figure out either what an ancient German war leader or the impossible idea if being brave and bold on a blog has to do with President Bush successfully keeping us free of attack. Of course there is little substance to consider in Rebecca Brock's letter.