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January 07, 2009

Praise for the Big Three

I am tired of people bashing America’s Big Three.

I rode to California and back in 1925 in a dependable Model T Ford.

I recently gave my grandson my 1991 Ford F-150, all original (except battery), and it is a very well-built pickup.

I also own a 2006 Lincoln Zephyr that gets 29 mpg and drives like a sports car while being conservative on cost and gas.

Please give the Big Three another chance. They really have some great products.

Harold Hake



Ford at least did not partake in the welfare package the UAW and the bigwigs want at the other two loser car companies.


Dan my friend, you indicted the Ford Co based on an old friends experience with man, not company itself. Not everyone is treated honestly by the representative they deal with.

Thats my comparison to religion.

Dan Beyer

I'm not sure how religion got into this subject and could care less.
My point is I know of FAR more horror stories about domestic brand cars versus foreign brand cars. Including my own experiences and I've had numerous instances!
I want a vehicle that I can depend on. Unfortunately the Big Three don't make those kind of vehicles based on my experiences and of many others.
If you build junk AND don't back it up, you deserve to go out of business.
I don't have the time, the patience, or the money to be an enabler to apathetic car companies that build vehicles that isn't as good nor can't run as long as their competition's can.


I did "Buy American", Toyota, built in the USA. Screw the UAW and it's whining thugs.
Are they willing to give up the products they purchase that are non-American and non-union? That's the problem with unions, it's not even about buying American it's about buying ONLY their product for THEIR job.
We are purposely NOT buying any of the Big Three, hopefully some more PEBO loving entitlement thinkers will lose their jobs and be forced to THINK for once.


I've put a GM truck in the shop once since 1976.

I failed a transmission in a GM truck around 1993 or 94. Without explaining exactly why it failed, it was not the fault of the truck or GM. It was the fault of the driver doing something stupid.

The truck was a couple of years old and I'd purchased it new. The dealer replaced the tranny at no cost to me. I purchased a couple more new trucks from the dealer before he eventually sold the dealership franchise and retired.

The only complaint I have about my current GM pickup is a bad spot in the paint (down low and hard to see) and a sloppy factory attempt at fixing it. But, for the first time I'm driving an imported GM pickup, made in Silao. With a choice, I'd have rather had one made in Ft Wayne or Pontiac, Mr. Wagner. With my next vehicle purchase, I'll make sure it doesn't come from Mexico.

Buy "American" made. The job you save, may be your own.


Dan Beyer,

Good thing he doesn't apply the same standard to religion. Jones, Swaggert, Jackson.....the list goes on who were deceptive within the ministry, but that does not indict the Co.

Cars are man made products of metal, glass and rubber. We, the American people have been brainwashed that they always need a new one and that the intended changes in style and functions are something to aspire to own. More so than homes, cars are the biggest investments most Americans make in their lifetime. Don't believe it, add up the cost of the homes you've owned and compare it to the total you've paid for all of your autos. Unless you move more than average you car prices will exceed the other by far.

Pub 17

Harold, dollars are votes, and the people have spoken. Toyota in particular has the crappiest ad agencies in the world, dating back to the 1975 Rolled Corona, but people buy them and buy them and buy them for one reason only: they work. They return value for money. They're like driving four-wheeled refrigerators.

In 1978 we a gorgeous new Seville on the showroom floor, triple black, which the dealer had equipped with real wire wheels and polished to a fare-thee-well, and slapped a $10,000 (outrageous at the time) price tage on.

It had a six-inch sag in the paint, which GM refused to warranty. I sold two dozen of the Japanese cars we sold off that Seville: I'd point to it and offer a twenty-dollar bill to any customer who could find ANY flaw in the paint of any of the riceburners, no matter how cheap.

Now I'm told that Buick, at least, has dialed up its build quality to world-class levels, and that CU has reported that Toyo is falling in reliability. Good. I'll argue that with the financial crisis, we're resetting the trip meter to zero, and domestic and import alike can decide to live in the new era or try to return to the mistakes of the past.

Doesn't have much to do with me, because my Tacoma is the last vehicle I'll ever need to buy. 300K, here I come.

T. Hanson

I am sure you can ask anyone that has drove cars long enough if they had a bad experience with a car company and get different answers all the time.

Ford/GM/Chrysler all have had their dark spots. Now the question is since they are American Owned Companies (yes I know they have factories outside of the 48) should we try to help them out? Or have they pissed you off so much you want to kill of a part of America and the jobs that go with them?

Dan Beyer

Well Harold you're one of the lucky few. I knew a Harold who was a veteran of WWII and was a loyal Ford man since he got out of the service.
That is until he found out the Taurus he bought for his daughter and his grandson had a defective rebuilt transmission. Not only had the dealership lied to him about the transmission being the original but they absolutely refused to make things right treated him like he was garbage and Ford Corporate would do nothing to to help this man. This man was in shock how he was treated by the very company he was loyal to and had bought a new vehicle from every two years. This Taurus was for his daughter and grandson and they took a dump on him!

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