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January 27, 2009

Reason for trash on the Mall in D.C.

Lee Larson (1/26, Letters) is concerned about all the trash left scattered over the Mall in Washington after President Obama’s inauguration last week. I was there and was also offended by the trash as I watched it grow around me.

I was also present down by the Lincoln Memorial on that August day in 1963 when Martin Luther King was telling about his dream. On that occasion, once containers were filled, people neatly stacked their discards right by the can and the Mall remained very neat.

But this time, when I had wrappers to dump, I discovered that all trash cans had been removed from the Mall. I’m sure security dictated their removal because such containers have been used to cache explosive devices, which could have ruined the day.

Donald E. Schomacker
Kansas City

Comments

solomon

Engineer,

As my first post of the day said, an eyewitness account.

solomon

Any surprise ButRug agrees with the troll.

Engineer

Reading the letter did give me feelings of relief and reassurance.

jack

Don't feed the trolls.

Casady

I really don;t have time to spend another afternoon dealing with Neidermier or whatever he calls himself. But has anyone considered the fact that it was a really windy day and there were 2M people there. As a result, any recepticles that were available were overflowing and whatever trash that may have been neatly piled next to a trash can was eventually blown away. Don't get me wrong, I'm all about packing out whatever one packs in but I think one needs to look at the magnitude of the event. Just look at Arrowhead parking lot after a Chiefs game on a cold windy day. Are they all Democrats as well?

BudRog

Well stated Arminius. I have spent many hours on the lakes and in the wood lots and I can truthfully say I give no thought to always picking up after myself. In fact I might add that all the sportsman who are my friends conduct themselves in the same manner. It would not have been a huge inconvenience to have carried a small bag for one's trash at this event. If the omission of trash cans came as a surprise, the trash could have been tucked in purse or pocket until the event was over.

I do not even want to consider that American flags were treated in the manner of a plastic water bottle. Forget how their size, that it is not the point.

The trashing of the mall tells a lot about the crowd.

Marctnts

Jim,

Just move on. It's not worth it.

Arminius

Jim:

"Anyone at the inauguration was, to him, a Democrat."

You have a serious reading comprehension problem.

solomon

Jim,

Trash to the trash bin.

His argument is pointless, he'll continue to make it even when confronted with the actuality of the situation.

Jim

Arminius looks at the world and doesn't see people. He sees "red" or "blue" political affiliations.

Anyone at the inauguration was, to him, a Democrat.

Any independent or person who proclaims that they support neither party is also a Democrat.

Any self-identifying Republican who doesn't viscerally attack Obama or the Clintons or has even the mildest criticism of Bush's handling of the WOT is also just another Democrat.

Arminius

"But there's the issue. You have concluded (wrongly, in my opinion) that those who did these questionable things must have been democrats, or at least those who support your positions. I know people who didn't support Obama's candidacy who chose to attend the inauguration for the historic aspect of the "first black man". Do you assume these people didn't leave their trash, and why?"

I suspect that there were few true democrats in the crowd. (And, contrary to your claim, I doubt that few support my positions.) However, only a fool would deny that the crowd was at least 80% Democrat.

And you keep missing the point. Democrats present themselves as pro-environment. If that's the case, why the huge mess left behind by the Democrats? This also occurred at the Democrat National Convention and Obama's victory speech in Chicago. Do you believe there were large numbers of Republicans at those events?

Also, Obama asked those in the audience to be more responsible. Picking up after yourself is being responsible. Apparently, the Messiah showed his inability to lead just minutes after taking the oath (or "oaf," as Feinstein said).

BTW,the Messiah is not the "first black man." There have been millions before him.

Marctnts

"Why should we not conclude that the same people who acted like pigs when President Bush was introduced also acted like pigs by throwing their refuse (including U.S. flags!) on the ground?"

But there's the issue. You have concluded (wrongly, in my opinion) that those who did these questionable things must have been democrats, or at least those who support your positions. I know people who didn't support Obama's candidacy who chose to attend the inauguration for the historic aspect of the "first black man". Do you assume these people didn't leave their trash, and why?

Arminius

"I was there and was also offended by the trash as I watched it grow around me ... I discovered that all trash cans had been removed from the Mall."

Great excuse. The Boy Scouts should remember that the next time they go camping in the woods. "Why, we had to throw our garbage on the ground because there were no garbage cans in the woods."

Why should we not conclude that the same people who acted like pigs when President Bush was introduced also acted like pigs by throwing their refuse (including U.S. flags!) on the ground?

Marctnts

I'd bet it must have been those commie pinko democrats who forced the security personnel to remove the trash cans. Surely no republican would have allowed such a travesty of justice to occur.

solomon

An eyewitness account. How refreshing.

whispering_to_kc

"I was there and was also offended by the trash as I watched it grow around me ... I discovered that all trash cans had been removed from the Mall."

Disclosing there were no trash cans at the event is going to take some air out of the Larson argument that "the heaps of trash on the ground only demonstrate that all Democrats are swine".

Thank goodness security still let 'em bring in "Don's Johns". Just think of what a mess a "no porta-johns" policy would have made under the feet of 2 million people. But, it would have given Mr. Larson the room to write an even better letter to the editor.

 
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