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February 11, 2009

Keep strong beer out of grocery stores

Your editorial, “Bottoms up to Kansas beer bill” (1/29, Opinion) had some incorrect comments regarding Kansas liquor laws. Kansas liquor store owners are residents of Kansas and are sole proprietors, not part of a chain or corporation. All taxes stay in Kansas and are not sent out of state.

Why should strong beer not be in grocery and convenience stores? Do you want 18-year-olds in more that 3,700 additional stores selling strong beer (5 percent) with 36 percent more alcohol content than the current 3.2 percent cereal malt beverage? In addition, the State of Kansas Alcohol Beverage Control Division will not be controlling underage buying.

Per the 2008 Distilled Spirits Council Report, out of 730 Kansas liquor stores, more than 200 will close and 500 to 800 jobs will be lost in Kansas communities.

Contact your Kansas legislators now to vote “no” to keep strong beer out of grocery and convenience stores and help Kansas small businesses.

Larry G. Knackstedt
Knocky’s Liquors, LLC
Past president, Kansas Association of Beverage Retailers
Overland Park

Editor’s note: A correction to the editorial ran Jan. 30 on Page A-2.



I agree that grocery stores and c stores should be allowed to sell strong beer, but then liquor stores should be able to sell cigs, pop, and other novelty items. I keep reading and all I here is that there won't be a difference, but if liquor stores are only allowed to sell strong beer and spirits, how could there not be. Other stores can sell other merchandise to make it. People will go for the convenient stop, and the liquor store will no longer be needed. Little mom and pop stores work very hard just like the next guy to make it in this crazy world.


No I don't want to "Keep strong beer out of grocery stores." I want to keep people who don't know how to mind their own business out of my decisions on what I can buy where. And businessmen who want laws to protect their monopolies really need to shut up and sit down.

Stifled Freedom

So the presumption from his logic is that 18 year olds are already drinking 3.2 percent alcohol at convenience stores now.


It seems there is a consensus that the letter from the past Prez of the Kansas Association of Beverage Retailers is just plain self-serving B.S. The Blue Law mentality in Kansas is... I don't have the word. 18-year-olds can vote and fight and die in Iraq, but they can't buy any kind of beer in Kansas, let alone 5%. Balder-bleep!!!


Colt .45 chasers after shots of Old Crow?


The scare mongering in this post is clap trap. It is like comparing apples and oranges when you compare 3.2 percent and 5 percent beers. The difference is NOT 1.8. One is measured by weight and the other by volume so the numbers aren't in the same units. When you convert one or the other to the same units the actual difference in alcohol content is very small.

Of course this is not to say that Kansas doesn't have archaic and weird alcohol laws, they do.

Stifled Freedom

Larry, your an idiot and a part of the special interest group problem with America. We have too many poeple (and special interest groups) out there screaming and stomping thier feet in Topeka to get meaningless changes that just end up punishing the innocent. What you propose wont change a thing about teens and alochol. And I dont believe for a minute that you care a dam for teens and alcohol. All you care is getting YOUR agenda passed for YOUR job and resume. That is just wrong.


Something Kansas might want to consider (or not, because lord knows I SO don't get Kansas) is that people (okay me) who live close to the state line go to MO grocery stores so we don't have to make two stops. I can't tell you how much of my business goes to Cosentino's Market instead of Hyvee because of the access to grownup beer. Just sayin'...


Gosh Larry, how is it that in other states (Missouri) liquor stores manage to stay in business despite the fact you can buy hard liquour in grocery stores, warehouse stores, even drug stores?


Looks like no more COlt 45 chasers after that shot of Old Crow.


"Do you want 18-year-olds in more that 3,700 additional stores selling strong beer (5 percent) with 36 percent more alcohol content than the current 3.2 percent cereal malt beverage?"

Yeah, because that extra 1.8% of alcohol content will corrupt the hands of the cashier who passes it over the scanner. That has to be one of the weakest (and perhaps the dumbest) arguments I've seen.

"...more than 200 will close..."

Okay, assuming you trust the Distilled Spirits Council to provide unbiased information on the topic (BIG leap there), I still can't see where any number of "jobs saved" is an appropriate rationale for favoring one type of business over another. If you want to argue that the ends justify the means, think about all the grocery stores that might be saved by being able to sell the good stuff.

That is, of course, unless you're president of the Kansas Association of Beverage Retailers.



How far out of the current century can Kansas get?

Oh, never mind.

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