A dose of sarcasm?

Based on the efficiency with which the government has made seasonal and H1N1 vaccines available, my confidence in Obama’s government-run health program just couldn’t be any higher.

C.F. Ring
Kansas City

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[Smarter Than You]

Kind of off topic (a good thing for Jim and Pub given the beating they’ve been taking); for the last few weeks we've been bombarded with the polls trumpeting the death of the Republican Party. So how are those Governor races in Virginia and New Jersey working out for you Obama supporters?

I know we've seen footage of the President campaigning for the Democratic candidates. I guess the news of the death of the Republican Party was premature. And so much for the President's coat tails.

[NoMoreMrNiceGuy]

and I hope they target liberal losers while the rest of us patriots come to your rescue.
Now go lick you boy's nads surfer boy.

[Smarter Than You]

Uh, Pub, not to point out the obvious, but you were the one who brought up Dachau. Not me. You.

You compared the genocide of millions to a few terrorists getting the gitmo dunk tank.

You're not just wrong. You're not just angry. You’re not just incredibly insulting. You're ridiculous. (I would have called you a clown, but why insult clowns?)

[Pub 17]

Exactly! And boy, were you stupid for asserting that they should keep Dachau open for a police barracks!

Now, let's discuss why you feel that "collapse the country into mayhem" is a good thing to say, worth supporting, and worth criticizing me over. Were you born here? Have you suffered great harm at the hands of your fellow Americans? Why do you now defend the idea that we should welcome the destruction of America at the hands of terrorists? Speak up, Help Desk.

[Smarter Than You]

You want more?

Job creation under the stimulus:

"ABC NewsOctober 30, 2009 7:12 PM
The White House argues that the actual job number is actually larger than 640,000 -- closer to 1 million jobs when one factors in stimulus jobs added in October and, more importantly, jobs created indirectly, such as "the waitress who's still on the job," Vice President Biden said today.
So let's see. Assuming their number is right -- 160 billion divided by 1 million. Does that mean the stimulus costs taxpayers $160,000 per job?"

How about the repudiation of Bush era tactics in the fight against terrorism?

"By DEVLIN BARRETT (AP) – 3 days ago
WASHINGTON — Attorney General Eric Holder says a lawsuit in San Francisco over warrantless wiretapping threatens to expose ongoing intelligence work and must be thrown out.
In making the argument, the Obama administration agreed with the Bush administration's position on the case but insists it came to the decision differently."

I couldn’t make this stuff up, even if I wanted to. Yet here it is; directly from our liberal press and in the news, not the opinion, sections. And not a single cite from Fox!

[Smarter Than You]

Pub's so funny. It's cute the way he can't comprehend that I'm not Nomo and yet he somehow wants me to defend Nomo's post. I even pointed out it was one of Nomo's "dumber posts."

I did find this beauty from Pub, by Pub and here for all to see:

"“All I can make of it is that the new German government, in your opinion, was really stupid for not keeping Dachau open as a police barracks.

Commented Aug 12, 2009 on Gitmo detainees”

Yes, dear friends, that’s the enlightened Pub comparing Gitmo to Dachau. Lib-think was comparing millions of dead Jews to water boarding a few terrorists.

[Pub 17]

Now you're dodging the question, dimwit. When and why did you suddenly decide to clearly and explicitly support violence against the United States of America?

[Smarter Than You]

When you get done with your childish rant, Jim, you want to address the issues involved? I thought not.

Obama's a victim who shouldn't be held to promises made. Check.

Obamacare does nothing to address the problems of private industry that you claimed today was the problem. Check.

Let's look at a few other recent Jimmer's classics (forgive me for using actual news reportes and cites). The cost of Obamacare?

By DAVID ESPO, AP Special Correspondent David Espo, Ap Special Correspondent – Mon Nov 2, 6:31 pm ET
WASHINGTON – The health care bill headed for a vote in the House this week costs $1.2 trillion or more over a decade, according to numerous Democratic officials and figures contained in an analysis by congressional budget experts, far higher than the $900 billion cited by President Barack Obama as a price tag for his reform plan.

That pesky abortion and alien thing?

Nov 3 12:48 PM US/Eastern
By ERICA WERNER
Associated Press Writer

House Democrats, meanwhile, were working overtime to put the finishing touches on their 10-year, $1.2 trillion bill, which they released last week. Leaders were trying to resolve lingering concerns over language to bar federal funding of abortions and ensure that illegal immigrants don't receive government health benefits.

Cash for Clunkers, your "sucessful program."

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- A total of 690,000 new vehicles were sold under the Cash for Clunkers program last summer, but only 125,000 of those were vehicles that would not have been sold anyway, according to an analysis released Wednesday by the automotive Web site Edmunds.com.

The average rebate was $4,000. But the overwhelming majority of sales would have taken place anyway at some time in the last half of 2009, according to Edmunds.com. That means the government ended up spending about $24,000 each for those 125,000 additional vehicle sales.

Of course this is all just loony right wing conspiracy stuff, isn't it, friends?

[Jim]

Another fact-free temper tantrum from the partisan hack. The person who plays the victim card more than all the people on this blog combines is now saying this? Unbelievable. Truly.

"Jim’s made a career of late proselytizing that Obamacare is not UHC and that the medical providers and manufacturers will still be private."

And I'm backed up by the facts. Both bills leave the private, for-profit insurance market intact. Can you prove otherwise? If not, what's your point? To tell everyone that I'm right? That's all you've accomplished so far.

"Yet here he is today blaming the problem on “private corporations.” Anyone else see a disconnect in his logic here?"

The only disconnect is in your partisan reflex to blame Obama for everything including the weather. The manufaturers of the H1N1 vaccine promised more than they could deliver. HHS and the administration took them at their word and assured people based on those promises. The manufacturers were unable to meet the timeline they themselves set out. That's just a plain and simple fact. If you can disprove it, do so. Otherwise, go lie about something a little more nuanced. The egg on your face is embarrassing.

[Pub 17]

Liar. Repeating your lies doesn't make them true, you ignorant codewriter. Ooops! I forgot, you're a Republican. Sorry, I take that back. Obama WAS born in Kenya, there WERE WMDs all over Iran AND Iraq, and George Bush went to war, in his words.

[Smarter Than You]

And Pub, since you enjoy repeating ad nauseam ones of Nomo's dumber posts would you really mind if I repost your quotes where you compared terrorists at Gitmo to Jews at Dachau?

[Smarter Than You]

When will the Obama apologists quit playing the “victim” card? First it was the “race” card, but even serious Democrats couldn’t buy that. Now he’s a victim of “private manufacturers.” He’s a victim of “Bush.” He’s a victim of “the economy.”

What’s funny is when he and his administration were making all of the promises about flu shot availability, unemployment rates with the stimulus, a plan for Afghanistan, etc. we never once heard the caveat “unless a private enterprise is involved” or “unless I can blame someone else.”

Jim’s made a career of late proselytizing that Obamacare is not UHC and that the medical providers and manufacturers will still be private. Yet here he is today blaming the problem on “private corporations.” Anyone else see a disconnect in his logic here?

These pathetic attempts to forgive Obama for obvious missteps just serve to remind what an ineffectual leader he has been thus far; and how his supporters recognize that they need him to be something he’s not.

[Pub 17]

We know what you believe and what you want:

I hope when they (terrorists) hit, they hit hard and do extensive damage, cause huge numbers of deaths and collapse the country into mayhem.
Posted by: NoMoreMrNiceGuy | Mar 31, 2009 8:58:04 AM

[NoMoreMrNiceGuy]

The same stupid tea party group mentality that was the catalsyt for this great country to form.
Maybe we should have just bowed to the King.
One policy I was taught at a young ag as you can not spend more than you hav unless you are a deadbeat. Being a Harvard grad has nothing to do with it. Supporting welfare, advocating welfare, playing the race card, and taking entirely too long to speak while trying to overthink what is cool to say, does not make you all greatness. JIm if you believe in high taxation, earning confiscation, larceny, hating America, victimology, welafer advocacy, father bashing, divorce, abortion for convenience and state run everything, sure Obama and his lil gang of clowns is the right pick.

[NoMoreMrNiceGuy]

It is also obvious the anti-private sector entitlement whiners have obviously lack manufacturing knowledge, especially as it pertains to something such as a vaccine.
Bush was called responsible and racist due to mayhem and headache of Katrina, yet he did not have ALL KNOWING control of that either. Private companies do it better then government more often than not. FACT!

[Jim]

"Jim, you have the "audacity" to cry because everything is Obama's fault?"

Who's crying? I simply pointed out that there is no factual basis for blaming this on Obama. You certainly haven't provided one, have you?

"Where the hell have you been the last 8 years?"

Well, for a little more than two of those years, I've been right here, criticizing specific policies I disagreed with and not simply blaming everything that's gone wrong on Bush. I've been here supporting him when I agreed with him, too. I've also been here lambasting the "truther" crap about 9/11, the "blood for oil" junk, and other conspiracy garbage.

Have I disagreed more than agreed with Bush? You bet. But that's because I thought he was wrong on so many things, not because I thought he stole the election or because he's Hitler. I didn't like the excesses of the protesters and fringe players against Bush any more than you did. But now we have the same stuff going on with this stupid tea party group (it's not a movement), and I see none of the outrage for their tactics from your side. If it was so outrageous back then, why is it just fine today?

You won't have an answer. You guys never do. Just more "what goes around" hyperbole and nonsense.

[mike d]

Jim, you have the "audacity" to cry because everything is Obama's fault? Where the hell have you been the last 8 years? This is a cakewalk compared to Bush. At least Obama has the media on his side. Remember the cloud seeding, building bomber, shoot down the shuttle Bush? This is the way it is now, like it or not. I suggest that in between rounds 1 & 2 you tell your guy to toughen up and get used to taking that Right.

[Indy]

Welcome to the flip side, Jim. Makes about as much sense as it did for democratic leaders to actually blame Bush for Obama's recent failure to secure the Chicago Olympics.

Right or wrong, it's here to stay. Eight years of brutal scrutiny and media assassination directed at GWB is now Obama's inheritance. So far, it appears he doesn't have the stomach for it. We'll see if he can grow some thicker skin. I wouldn't want that job. But he did, so take the good with the bad.

[Jim]

More Obama Derangement Syndrome. Everything is Obama's fault, now. Even the inability of private manufacturers to meet the estimates it promised to the White House is now somehow his fault. I suppose if you want to blame him for something, you could blame him for relying on the estimates of private corporations and the ability of our broken health care system to deliver the vaccines in a timely manner. This just makes more of a case for health care reform, if anything.

But let's blame Obama and elect more of the Republicans who stripped increased funding for dealing with flu pandemics out of the stimulus bill and voted back in June against funding to combat H1N1 specifically. Yeah, that makes sense.

[mike d]

Old system? New System? Slap a new name on it and throw some money at it all you want, but its still run by the same incompetent idiots in DC, who by the way, don't have to pay for their health insurance. Some day we will have a new monument in Washington. It will be the wall that we lined these scumbags up next to and ended the true problem once and for all!

[Indy]

The funny part is, some folks are so blinded by their hatred for Bush that they can't stand for something to not be his fault and his fault alone. It's sad, really.

Full-circle irony.

[Jeff H]

Oh, the irony... the side that has long opposed government-run health care because "private insurance companies can handle it so much better than something that is government run" are now bashing Obama because the vaccine isn't getting out in a fast enough manner... the funny thing is, the vaccine is being manufactured and shipped by PRIVATE COMPANIES. To date, the delays are all the result of private companies claiming they could meet the needs and the deadlines set, willingly accepting the money that was used to purchase the vaccine, but then not delivering in a timely manner. So much for "private industry ALWAYS does it better."

The funny part is, some folks are so blinded by their hatred for Obama that they can't stand for something to not be his fault and his fault alone. It's sad, really.

[NoMoreMrNiceGuy]

It's always someone elses fault when it comes to Obamafans. Why would we want to keep a system in palce that has 85% plus satisfaction. All that is needed are some modifications of the current failed government health programs. I tend to listen to doctors not lawyers and billionaire gold diggers like Pelosi when it comes to health information.

[Smarter Than You]

Why so apoplectic, Obamaites?

Just because this administration promised 120 million doses of the H1N1 vaccine and delivered just over 13 million in that time frame? Was that promise Bush's fault, or was it just inexperience over-promising what they could deliver?

It's almost reminiscent of a promise of unemployment maxing out at 8% with the stimulus passed. Or during the campaign Obama's insistence that he had a plan for Afghanistan (who knew it would be sit on his hands and hope for the best).

The Obamacare promise? A trillion dollars to cover 2% with a government option (based on Democratic sources), forced policies that will increase the costs, a massive tax increase during a recession. . . I don't think we can take many more promises from this administration.

[Kee]

But wait don't order yet!

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/11/02/sources-house-health-totals-trillion/

Just to insure about 2% of our population, insanity.