Congress should read

I can’t believe it. Here we go again with a 1,000-page bill on financial reform in this country. Banking Committee Chairman Christopher Dodd and others may have passed the bill before knowing what’s in it.

Again, it’s just like the health care reform legislation. If we don’t get these big-government, spend-us-to-death, socialistic politicians out of Washington, God help us.

In fact that’s a great place to start. God help us.

Tom Swope

Kansas City

Comments

[beaker]

Leopold -

You are correct about the cell phone locations. I still find this alarming, don't you?

AS far as the Czars, these do not have to answer to oversight of congress.

It is laughable at best to compare Valerie Plume to my point of shutting down new organizations or internet sites that promote different views than the administration.

You last statement about the wars were overwhelming approved by Congress and the American people. It was later that the people disapproved.

[Leopold]

Beaker, I wont comment on your first paragraph, as it relies on opinion, except for the progressives bit. Put down the Glen Beck pipe.

Cell phone conversations are still priveledged and were never questioned. What was/is questioned is if the location of the cell phone is priveledged--cell phone tracking.

Guantanamo existed before Bush.

Czars? Bit overboard aren't we? Shucks, might as well call my wife the czar of the house.

Shutting down opposing views? Valerie Plame ring a bell?

You're going to have to be a bit more specific in regards to self-proclaimed communists.

"I don't recall where Bush put into action policies overwhelming opposed by the citizens."

If you were to ponder that statement in retrospect, I bet the answer would be different.

[beaker]

Hi Jimbo -

I challenge you to find anywhere on this board where I said that Bush was a good president. I think you will find that I have said that both he and Obama are progressives and progressives are the problem. But given the chance that both of these guys ran against each other, I'd take Bush as the lesser of two evils. He has been shown to be that.

Bush tapped our phones, Obama has yet to remove these policies. In fact he has added to them. He even tried to say that cell phone conversations were public domain.

Bush started Quantanimo, Obama was supposed to close it; hasn't happened. Obama has increased the use the rendition plan.

Bush had several czars that didn't have to answer to congress. Obama has over 20. Please tell me where in the constitution that this lack of oversight is allowed.

Bush, though unpopular, never talked about shutting down opposing views. He never had a fcc czar that looked at ways to stop dissent, he never put a plan in place to take over the internet, he never talked about shutting down news organization that talked against him.

I don't recall where Bush put in self proclaimed communists in charge of many of our organizations.

I don't recall where Bush put into action policies overwhelming opposed by the citizens. Or where he gave backroom deals and money to his supporters. Health care, Financial Reform, and the Stimulus is filled with nothing more than graft for his buddies.
Oh and those bad Bush tax cuts (which were given to every us citizen that pays taxes) are now being defended by Democrats.

Jim, according to you, Obama can do no wrong. You are a lemming and a lap dog and support whatever he wants,even when it violates the constitution or expands upon items you protested against Bush about. This just shows your true nature. As long as the ends justifies the means, huh Jim?

[GCYL]

"Then there's beaker, resident GOP liar and Bush cheerleader. Bush could tank the economy, lose 8 million jobs and balloon the deficit to $1.3 trillion and beaker would still be singing his praises." - As a DNC liar and Obama cheerleader Jimmy known what he’s talking about.

“***HELP WANTED***

The Unfettered Letters Blog is looking to hire a new champion for Obamacare. After months of losing on all significant points, JTF/Jim has had to be put down. The successful candidate will have the skills to make a cognitive argument and the ability to back it with documentation. Intellectual and ethical honesty are musts(given that trying the opposite approach by the previous employee was such a miserable failure).

The pay is satisfaction for a job well done. Given that we never had to pay our previous employee based on that standard, there is plenty to give.

This position will count as 1.2 million jobs for stimulus accounting purposes!” - Posted by: Smarter Than You | Apr 27, 2010 6:41:05 PM

Can’t wait for another lecture on party hack politics from Jimmy.

[Zeno]

You know Jim you did to Tom and Beaker exactly what you seem to be mad about.

Beaker cannot dispute your factual point, because there is not one. You went off on Tom being a tea partier just like you said Tom did on Dodd.

I can say i read a bout 160 pages of the bill and then my head exploded!! And then the bill was rewritten after that. It is a reasonable assumption on both sides that these bills do not get read in their entirities. I suspect it gives too much cover to say "I did not know THAT was in their" (whatever that may be).

Calm down Jim, you are so shrill lateky on everything you write. One would suspect you are getting a little nervous for November. (:>)

[Jim]

"Then there's beaker, resident GOP liar and Bush cheerleader. Bush could tank the economy, lose 8 million jobs and balloon the deficit to $1.3 trillion and beaker would still be singing his praises."

Meanwhile, in the real world, beaker can't come up with any way to rebut my factual point, so he just makes stuff up about me. This is the classic Republican shill move. Project your own deficiencies (lack of basic understanding of economics, 100% party-line thought, support for fascist corporate governance, dumb retorts that are supposed to pass for arguments) onto your political opponents.

Your desperate intellectual dishonesty and cheap insults aren't fooling anyone, beaker.

[beaker]

Well, there's Jim, Obama's and the left's resident cheerleader, out again, clueless as usual. One of the few still left who support everything the big Zero has to say.

Obama could declare martial law and seize control of the government and Jim would create a letter as to why that is a good thing.

[Jim]

What a lazy letter. Tom is trying to squeeze in all the Tea Party talking points without actually having to back them up with any pesky facts. That's because the facts are never with the Tea Partiers.

Dodd, the Right's favorite boogieman on banking issues, "may have" passed the bill without reading it. Really? Based on what information? Did Dodd or "others" ever say they didn't read it?

But based on this letter, we know who really didn't read the bill: Tom Swope. God help us, indeed.