Scattered over the Kansas landscape I see signs that read, “Abortion is murder.”
OK, but those who post those signs should consider that illegal abortions were often double murders.
Alan Hurlbut
Wichita
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Yes John...it's too bad your parents couldn't keep from copulating.
Posted by: spuds | March 02, 2011 at 07:40 PM
One way to stop abortions would be to avoid copulating when you aren't prepared to care for the possible result.
Let me head off one argument. I'm not talking about incest or rape. Those aren't usually "voluntary" copulation between consenting adults.
Pro-abortion people generally cause their own problems.
Posted by: John S | March 02, 2011 at 06:54 PM
Hey Mark...I'm not talking about deformed...I'm not talking about Down Syndrome...I'm talking about NO BRAIN. It cannot live more than an hour once the umbilical cord is cut. NO FREAKING BRAIN. Of course...you pro lifers who support the death penalty have never walked in the shoes...you just talk a good talk. I've never really wished ill on anyone, but sometimes I wish you guys would be shown a sonogram of an anacephalic fetus (google anencephaly for an image of that for some REAL fun)
Of course, it is possible that some without a brain do live longer than an hour. Those that survive usually grow up to be conservatives.
Posted by: spuds | March 02, 2011 at 05:50 PM
Nothing was "made up" of course. The 54% point was not meant to prove that increased use of contraception does not reduce abortion, it was meant to show that contraception quite often does not prevent pregnancy. The fact remains that increased use of contraception does not reduce abortion.
Dr. David Paton, head of the economics division of the Nottingham University Business School, is author of 4 major studies that found "no evidence" that "the provision of family planning reduces either underage conception or abortion rates."(The Economics of Family Planning and Underage Conceptions." Journal of Health Economics, 21.2, March 2002, 207-225)
For further studies demonstrating the failure of contraceptive programs to reduce unintended pregnancy and abortion go to www.usccb.org/prolife/issues/contraception/index/shtml. Thank you.
Mark Robertson
Independence
Posted by: Mark Robertson | March 02, 2011 at 01:44 PM
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Right. If you meant to show that contraception quite often does not prevent pregnancy, you would have wrote it. And still, you claim, "The fact remains that increased use of contraception does not reduce abortion." On what grounds is that a fact, Mark? Dr. Paton's finding of "no evidence"? No evidence is fact?
Made up nonsense.
Posted by: Leopold | March 02, 2011 at 04:21 PM
Tyler, sarcasm aside you are wrong. The egg may or may not be fertilized. It just won't embed in the womb as the pill irritates the lining of the uterus. So it may or may not be, in effect, an abortion.
Posted by: Zeno | March 02, 2011 at 03:49 PM
That's what I like about Plan B, no abortion. It's never a human because the sperm never fertilizes the egg. And unless you're an MD, don't try to tell me it doesn't work that way. Now, if you ask any religous person, just the act of sex results in a kid, or at least it should. "No sex without kids. Because sex is just dirty, nasty stuff. (sarcasm off)"
Posted by: Tyler | March 02, 2011 at 03:37 PM
Scattered over the Kansas landscape I see signs that read, “Abortion is murder.”
Well when you kill an innocent baby in a womb, what else can it be called? One minute outside the womb and there is no question of what it is called by anyone.
I guess that is an assumption I should not make. How long do you pro deathers think we should have to abort?
Posted by: Zeno | March 02, 2011 at 03:14 PM
These abortion threads can always be counted on to draw out the middle-aged male perverts like the lying one, who spends much of its time medicated and looking for strip joints. And of course the mthical Booga Bottom cafe of the 80's. Pathetic.
NURSE med check room 5!
Posted by: Zeno | March 02, 2011 at 03:11 PM
Spuds wrote>>> "If the pro-fetus crowd (I'd say pro life, but most support the death penalty and supported the war in Iraq) had their way and Planned Parenthood was shut down, then 95% of the people seeking illegal abortions would not be using contraceptives."
And you know these stats from where?? OH yeah from the same place LWTKC gets its stats. The imagination!
BTW fetus means unborn baby (offspring)
Posted by: Zeno | March 02, 2011 at 03:08 PM
These abortion threads can always be counted on to draw out the middle-aged male Bible thumpers.
Look, even MR from Indy showed up today.
Posted by: whispering_to_kc | March 02, 2011 at 02:50 PM
Nothing was "made up" of course. The 54% point was not meant to prove that increased use of contraception does not reduce abortion, it was meant to show that contraception quite often does not prevent pregnancy. The fact remains that increased use of contraception does not reduce abortion.
Dr. David Paton, head of the economics division of the Nottingham University Business School, is author of 4 major studies that found "no evidence" that "the provision of family planning reduces either underage conception or abortion rates."(The Economics of Family Planning and Underage Conceptions." Journal of Health Economics, 21.2, March 2002, 207-225)
For further studies demonstrating the failure of contraceptive programs to reduce unintended pregnancy and abortion go to www.usccb.org/prolife/issues/contraception/index/shtml. Thank you.
Mark Robertson
Independence
Posted by: Mark Robertson | March 02, 2011 at 01:44 PM
Any woman who is truly pro-life would give birth to such a child. All children deserve to be born. The "emotion" clause is, as they say, big enough to drive a semi through. A few hours of life is a few hours of life. I have a brother who was born severely deformed and lived just a few minutes. Even if my late mom knew ahead of time that Tom would have been born deformed, I have no doubt that aborting Tom would not have entered her mind, even if it were legal at the time, which it wasn't. Thank you.
Mark Robertson
Independence
Posted by: Mark Robertson | March 02, 2011 at 01:20 PM
...tater, I am for the death penalty for certain crimes, none of which are that something is inconvenient, I recognize that abortion is the legal killing of the unborn and a woman has that right to kill as a citizen of our nation and I have always said the Iraq war is imperialism....most of what I just said is opinion with the exception of "abortion is the legal killing".....when you defend something stand up and call it what it is...
....any of you guy's who agree with Sue that there are worse things than being terminated want to post a % of the number aborted in any given year that would have been born with the calamitous medical future that you wave about in argument....I'd blindly wager it is in the low single digit range....
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Posted by: Solomon | March 02, 2011 at 01:16 PM
Abortion is wrong, saves lives? What abou the baby; there are some curcumstances to abort but just because you dont want it is no excuse.
Posted by: jazzman2952 | March 02, 2011 at 12:48 PM
If the pro-fetus crowd (I'd say pro life, but most support the death penalty and supported the war in Iraq) had their way and Planned Parenthood was shut down, then 95% of the people seeking illegal abortions would not be using contraceptives.
Hey Mark...if your wife was carrying a baby and it's brain failed to form - meaning it would "live" for a matter of hours at most once it was born - would you force her to carry it to term, even though it posed no threat to her physical health...but was killing her emotionally? That's what Kansas is proposing, since "emotional health" made it too easy to get abortions. More power to ya if the answer is yes. Of course, more power to your wife is she decides to actively and fervently practice abstinence with you after that.
Posted by: spuds | March 02, 2011 at 12:36 PM
Republicans still crowing over the capture of Ted Kennedys Massachusetts Senate Seat have a potential presidential candidate their “Bible thumping Taliban” seldom speak of and will never support! --- Scott Brown believes women should have a right to abortion. -- His concession (and mistake) to the “party” is it should not be federally funded?
The Door Swings both Ways Mr. Brown!
Those individual Taxpayers who would deny their monetary support for Planned Parenthood or a woman’s Freedom to choose should also be the - ONLY- Taxpayers providing for the welfare and fiscal needs of a woman forced to birth and care for an unwanted child!
Posted by: renfro | March 02, 2011 at 12:33 PM
My mistake, "wouldn't prove"
Posted by: Leopold | March 02, 2011 at 11:43 AM
Increased contraception use does not reduce abortion. 54% of women who get abortions are using contraception. (Contraception, Unintended Pregnancy and Abortion, by Greg Schleppenbach, Life Insight, Southern Nebraska Register)-MR
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What a moronic statement. Even if it was 100%, it still would prove your assertion that, "Increased contraception use does not reduce abortion." It is not even evidence.
And what percentage, would you say, of women using contraception, as opposed to not, would consider abortion?
That's just made up nonsense.
Posted by: Leopold | March 02, 2011 at 11:34 AM
Increased contraception use does not reduce abortion. 54% of women who get abortions are using contraception. (Contraception, Unintended Pregnancy and Abortion, by Greg Schleppenbach, Life Insight, Southern Nebraska Register)
Planned Parenthood doesn't provide ultrasound mammograms, it supposedly refers women elsewhere.
Do "low income" and "rural" women not know about low cost or free health clinics?
So Philadelphia Right to Life has some responsibility for Gosnell. Right. I'm sure you also then support the wonderful Lila Rose who has shown how corrupt Planned Parenthood is. Thank you.
Mark Robertson
Independence
Posted by: Mark Robertson | March 02, 2011 at 11:04 AM
Volunteer - payback for help when I was younger and less economically stable. You should try it - I mean from the side that's not screaming at women, showing them disgusting pictures, and telling them they're going to hell.
Posted by: Sue N. | March 02, 2011 at 10:48 AM