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March 25, 2011

Re-energize democracy

Isn’t it interesting that when the tea parties had their meetings and demonstrations last year, they touted them as democracy in action? Recently people in Ohio and Wisconsin protested the dictatorial actions of their tea party governors, and all at once the right-wing pundits like Michelle Malkin and Glenn Beck and Rep. Paul Ryan see “thuggery” and riots in the streets.

Hogwash. These governors are nothing more than mouthpieces for the oligarchs who want to take over the United States.

If you don’t know what an oligarch is, like I used to tell my students, look it up. You might be surprised at what you find. The poster boys for the term and its definition are the Koch brothers of Wichita.

Is that who we want running this country? I don’t think so.

Warren C. Allen
Raytown

Comments

Seth

I suggest Mr. Warren look up the definition of dictatorial.

That fairly elected officials are doing what they were elected to do, despite the protests of the special interest education lobby on their slipping grip on the reins of political power over their fellow Wisconsinites, does not quite qualify.

LL

Earlier...just trying to give gg a hard time and got carried away...

Jack King

Dad burn Navy, we drew them out!

No. 10 my brother!

John S

Gee, Warren cute post! Lots of progressive and socialist "talking points". Do you teach? Really? Could have fooled me.

We don't have a democracy in this country although I'm sure you wish we did have. Democracy = mob rule. What we have is a constitutional, representative republic.

I can see that you never attended a Tea Party rally. You don't know what you're talking about.

It was the people from the thuggery movement who invaded the Wisconsin Capital and made it nearly impossible for the state to conduct business. You should be proud! Bongo drums, chants, pushing people and callin names is a rel accomplishment! Pat yourself on the back.

whispering_to_kc

Save the bankers and the robber barons.

Privatize the profits, socialize the risks.

whispering_to_kc

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/25/corporate-profits-2011-all-time-high_n_840538.html

NEW YORK -- Despite high unemployment and a largely languishing real estate market, U.S. businesses are more profitable than ever, according to federal figures released on Friday.

U.S. corporate profits hit an all-time high at the end of 2010, with financial firms showing some of the biggest gains, data from the federal Bureau of Economic Analysis show. Corporations reported an annualized $1.68 trillion in profit in the fourth quarter. The previous record, without being adjusted for inflation, was $1.65 trillion in the third quarter of 2006.

Ryan Roedel

Sorry...whom...not whome....hmmmm...

Ryan Roedel

Look at the NFL. Is it the union exploiting the owners? Are the owners exploiting the players? Whome does the Union back? Whome do the people support?

That is a union for a sport born in capitalism, but grew strong under socialism. Who doesn't watch the superbowl? You might have to read up on your Marxism. It does have its strengths when pulled apart, just as capitalism and socialism. Why does there have to be only one true way?

Ryan Roedel

Navyvet...what makes you think that those unions are not using the "collective kitty" for the collective good of their members? For example, most union fight I've been privy to in the public sector are fights over certain privitization of services or programs. This can (privitization) make sense at times, and the unions have not chosen that fight. However, there have been past administrations and congresses that have sought to privitize at will. Many times, privitization does not equal better service in the long run. Privitization can save money up front, but the long term reality is much different from what I have observed.

Another example...a federal union disagreed with the federal freeze in pay, but didn't fight. It was understood that this will happen. It was excepted. The federal unions would fight mandatory furloughs, however, but would probably lose. I think you might have a misconception of just how luxurious a public employee's life really is.

How is it that a public employee has become the scapegoat? Public employees didn't create this mess we're in. How convenient that this is a time when cons point their Potter finger and call out public unions as some force that must be dealt a crushing blow?

whispering_to_kc

Down with the Democrat communists!!! THe Leninist Roosevelt and the RINO communist Eisenhower can't be gone soon enough.

Calvin Coolidge and Herbert Hoover will save us!!! That's who we want running the country for the robber barons benefit!!!

whispering_to_kc

Glenn Beck is a great American, a hero and super-patriot.

Beck's wisdom sprouts from his history of alcohol and drug abuse followed with multiple marriages. It's though his history of repeated personal failings and weakness that he's able to successfully guide the rest of us in how we should run our lives.

Glenn Beck, a fountain of wisdom and a great man.

whispering_to_kc

"... the Koch brothers of Wichita ..."

Koch Industries is "of Wichita" but most of the Koch brothers are of NYC and the east coast. Charles is the only one of the four Koch brothers still "of Wichita" but I'd be surprised if even he spends much time there.

I can't believe people have a problem with the robber baron class running the USA for their own benefit. Why can't the serfs be happy with their place in the peckin' order? Isn't clean straw to sleep on and warm, nutritious porridge for supper enough to make you whiners happy?

Complaining about the oligarch ruling class? Are you whiners all Eisenhower communists?

Thank you. You're welcome.

Navyvet

"Navyvet and the other cons on here have a problem with unions, because they collect dues from their members and use those dues for political gain?"

I would hardly try to speak for all my fellow "cons" on here but it is my position that unions are fine as long as they stay out of the public sector and not use their dues to support political parties or movements. Support whoever you want to on your own but the collective kitty shouldn't be used to influence politics.

How would you feel if your union suddenly pulled a 180 and started supporting the NRA, Right to Life and made huge contributions to Sarah Palin's PAC?

Individuality, not the collective is the answer here.

LL

Ryan...not you. I'm over it...Just seems a lot of you do that...

Navyvet

Ryan-

I don't speak for union members but I do know alot of them and we talk about this regularly. Just because I'm not in one doesn't mean I can't express my experiences and opinions about them.

"So...history would show that when you continue an agenda of deprioritizing the working class...you will be (eventually) handed your head. Unless....fostering the paradigm being created...you have enough of the other commoners to think they are safe."

Deprioritizing the working class? Fostering the paradigm? What in the world are you trying to say? Maybe I need to buy a "Marx For Dummies" book to translate this into understandable English.

"It worked well enough in 1936 Germany." Are you saying that the workers are Nazis or that the "cons" are? (Cute name by the way.)

Ryan Roedel

So..let me get this straight:

Navyvet and the other cons on here have a problem with unions, because they collect dues from their members and use those dues for political gain?

Is this a fair assessment of your position(s)?

Ryan Roedel

Didn't answer my question, Navyvet. Are you a union memeber? You dump a lot of he-said-she-said. You seem to speak for union memebers...that would be like me speaking for Navy vets. Democrats...as this whole f'n issue portrays,..doesn't target unions. Republicans try to all the time. Who the hell do you think unions would back, given that (oh so current) issue? Unions are not like Kansas conservatives...they know in what direction the wind blows. So...what came first, the chicken or the egg?

The cons, IMO, continue to stand up and slit their own throats. I am not saying that Democrats have it all right, but I definitely know sh*t when I smell it on Republicans...NOW.

So...history would show that when you continue an agenda of deprioritizing the working class...you will be (eventually) handed your head. Unless....fostering the paradigm being created...you have enough of the other commoners to think they are safe. It worked well enough in 1936 Germany.

Ryan Roedel

LL..my point is like Tyler's. We've hashed this out and it just continues. Well then...we didn't hash it out, did we? So..who cares...

Navyvet

Ryan-

I'm assuming you meant an Indiana Republican since we all know Indians aren't Republicans, only white males can be...right?

So your point is that Walker and his supporters are somehow nefarious because they contemplated a false flag action but didn't actually go thru with it? The guy who suggested it resigned and Walker never did it so what is the problem?

Or is your point that every single union member is a die-hard supporter of the union movement? If that is your point then I'm here to tell you it just ain't true. Many people who belong to a union resent having to pay the dues to an organization that doesn't reflect their political beliefs or are you going to try to tell us that the Democrats don't own the unions lock, stock and barrel. Or maybe it's the other way around....I have a hard time telling them apart sometimes.

LL

gg...I am shocked that you would be "name-calling" a politian...shame on you!! I guess it's OK for you to call republican governors names(talk about double standards)

...seems a lot of you liberal types can say anything you choose...can twist others words, call politians names...it's OK if your liberal! Talk about double standards..
look in the mirror.
(you all know who you are)

...anyway...Navyvet, I agree with you sir...

Navyvet

 
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