« Stooges for war | Main | Obamacare fine print »

March 28, 2011

Thorns of Arizona sprout in Kansas

Some times I have read remarks about Secretary of State Kris Kobach in the Opinion section of The Kansas City Star. Many of these remarks are not flattering.

Mostly the writers leave the impression that Secretary of State Kobach went to Arizona on his own to cause trouble. In reality, he was invited to Arizona to make sure the state’s laws on immigration were in compliance with the federal laws on that subject. He did just that.

Then President Barack Obama said to an audience in Iowa, “Now, suddenly, if you don’t have your papers and you took your kid out to get ice cream, you’re going to get harassed.” The president perhaps forgot something he should have learned in law school — probable cause.

Many people in Kansas might be interested to learn the state of Kansas complies with the federal laws on immigration. Or it can also be said that our laws are like the state of Arizona’s.

Bob Faulkner
Prairie Village



Hi Ryan & Casady...I really don't know what "Britannicus" is getting at and where he/she got their information but regarding the 14th Amendment...I do agree that we need to change this law not just for the mexican women coming here to have their babies but seems it's more international now. Did either of you see the article about the chinese women in California in the KC Star earlier this week?
(see attached site)


Steven Klein

I'm not sure if the Britannicus posting was made my some clever liberal type trying to make a subset of conservatives look psychotic or if Kris Kobach is now writing under a pseudonym.

Ryan Roedel

What the hell.....

The wing nuts are thick this time of year. It must be all this cold rain....

Really brit...hordes of preggy women are running across the border? Acorn brought down the housing market by pushing loans for the undocumented? I do hope you're attempting humor. If you are not...uh...well, I'm breathless.

It's like watching the special report on the Muslim community in Murfreesboro. Anyone catch that? Wow....I felt like I was watching a Daily Show spoof.


Didn't think so. Thanks anyway.


"Attention: Using veiled threats Acorn and its ilk, threatened the banking industry with boycotts, unless they loosened laws on lending. “Ninja loans” reluctantly given to low income, illegal aliens, with no credit, no assets, which crippled the housing market, were causing the financial crash in the USA"

Thanks for the info Britannicus. Can you provide the number of such loans that were made as well as the total dollar amount both in dollars and as a percentage of total residential loans that went into default? Thanks!


The 14th Amendment clarifies that any child born on the soil of the United States, has immediate citizenship and all the benefits that is commanded by that law. Until this law is amended of rescinded the repercussions on this country are immense, spending in the billions of dollars each year. Many pregnant women lie to the Immigration and Customs official at airport terminals or just slip across the US borders, in the dead of night. Illegal immigration has become a controversial issue, as painful as the unemployment issue. After the 1986 Immigration Control and Reform Act, the American people expected the federal government to enforce the laws, which included severe penalties for businesses that hired illegal workers; instead the US people were financially-raped. Instead millions of Guest Workers received amnesty then left their farming jobs and vanished into the workforce nationwide. Those numbers that received amnesty, snowballed the chain migration, bring in family members that taxpayers now pay.

Since then-SIX-other furtive amnesties has slipped by public notice and that doesn't include the importation of approximately 1.5 million legal immigrants annually. By revising the 14th amendment the billions of dollars in education, health care, food stamps, Medicaid, Section 8 housing, cash payments and other undisclosed welfare programs could cease.In some States illegal aliens can collect Worker's compensation and unemployment benefits. All that money could be diversified to senior Citizens, who haven't received no cost of living payment in two years. Veterans living under bridges or in shelters could be allocated the low income homes that illegal parents allowed to stay, get preference for their offspring born here. All these public services and entitlements have been drawn away from the US workers, who paid into the system since the beginning of their working life. No matter what the pessimists and open border zealots say, every taxpayer would be willing to pay a few cents more to stop the fraudulent-oriented Guest worker programs.

Taxpayer are being ripped-off by paying for those agricultural laborers when they get sick or injured, as the farmer is not obligated to pay for their children's education the families health care. This has become a financially vicious circle that will not end, with either the deep entrenched Liberal-Democrats, Republicans or any political entity other than the committed TEA PARTY. The TEA PARTY is growing much faster from the dominant Republicans, and certain politicians are discarding there old parties to join this third party. The Tea Party is secular in definition, non-partisan with open registration for all legal racial, including ethnic majorities and minorities. The Tea Parties core values of Fiscal Responsibility, Limited Government, Free Market and a Strong National Security. We have great substance in the leadership who are fighting against the old, tired "Business as Usual" political hard liners, who will keep our taxes spiraling and spending our grand children's futures.

There will be no compromise with either party who keep the dollars flowing; printing more as our US debt are extended uncontrollably. All elected officials should be on notice that if you are anti-sovereignty and pro-illegal immigrant, they will be removed from office. That will be every Governor, Mayor, Police Chief and city manager. Every form of illegal immigration must be terminated, with businesses accountable and should be heavily fined, assets taken and long prison sentences. Obama's team also needs to be held accountable, as with prior President George Bush and even Ronald Reagan's leadership. Unions are also not be held to the same policies of enforcement, even though amongst their membership illegal workers are in their midst. The 1986 travesty sent both legal and illegal immigration, in the tens of millions and beyond into our country. The ultra-leftists are demoralized and the TEA PARTY has rattled their fetid cages, because the TEA PARTY has erased their wide open border ideas. Once the illegal immigrant war is won by building the real double fence and deploying 5000 troops along the border, we can cut-out all the special preferences such as Political Correctness “Press One for English." If any minority wants to legally come here, they had better learn the national language, which is causing great hardships in our overcrowded schools.

Extremely intelligent, the highest skilled workers don’t not need public welfare and never will and therefore should get special preferences to immigrate America is a place of opportunity, but the taxpayers are being overtaxed to pay for the foreign nationals who come here to steal the American dream, using child tax credits to profit. Criminals have compromised our tax code, and are thieving millions of dollars, as if the government stays ignorant to this fact. Our prisons are full of criminal aliens, drug dealers, murders, gang members and a complex assortment of nefarious activities. No more amnesties, immigration reform dream acts or anything else. The Illegal immigration issue should be important to every legitimate American, as it affects every-bodies pay check. There should be no exceptions to every county using Secure Communities police fingerprinting and detainment of individuals being processed, along with the new version of E-Verify. The new innovations to E-Verify will make it almost impossible, for any illegal worker to slip past the verification procedure. 287 (g) is still enforce around the country, to question any wrongdoer who is driving a vehicle. These tools must be made permanent and Sen. Harry Reid (D-NV) can suck a lemon, as he tried to eradicate all these restriction programs. Other than California, Nevada has the highest population of foreign nationals in the country. America is a pressure valve for other corrupt governments for their unemployed and those living in abject poverty.

Attention: Using veiled threats Acorn and its ilk, threatened the banking industry with boycotts, unless they loosened laws on lending. “Ninja loans” reluctantly given to low income, illegal aliens, with no credit, no assets, which crippled the housing market, were causing the financial crash in the USA. The Leftists will not advertise this explosive revelation; read about it on Google and the consequences.

Always NO Copyright, ever. Distribute freely.


...interesting Larry. You are correct that everyone makes mistakes (usually by jumping to conclusions)...and your last sentence is a conclusion - maybe things will actually be better...we can only hope.

Librul Larry

Dupkin was reacting out of emotion after a close friend was shot. And the gist of his comments weren't all that far off. Too much political opinion is based off of what Rush/Beck/et al feed to their gullible viewers. When confronted with actual evidence, simply move on to the next BS talking point.

Dupkin said something following an emotional event that ultimately had no consequences. George Bush started an entire war based on a misstatement.

I assume you can operate google. Sherrif joe's wiki page will give you some idea why he is scum. If not, you aren't going to be convinced of anything anyway.

Oh and white people will be calling the shots long after we're dead whether the group is a statistical minority or not.


I had a doctor's appointment last year, a specialist in OP off Antioch or Metcalf or somewhere on one of those suburban JoCo roads that all look alike.

I was early so I sat in the truck in the parking lot for a little bit watching a brick building next door going up.

The construction crew were all ... Mexican. Not Mexican-Americans or Latinos or Hispanics or anything else. Mexicans.

I get a kick out of these JoCo letters whining about illegals even while that's all you're willing to hire for construction or landscaping work.

You're all funny as all get out.


Hello Librul...I am surprised that you are so down on Sherrif Joe, Maricopa County's sheriff since 1993 and re-elected to five four-year terms. Seems that the sherrif is well liked by the people of Arizonia...he has won all of his sheriff's elections by double digits...I will say that he is very hard on crime & the prisoners in his jails.

I'm sure you'd like Clarence W. Dupnik of Pima County though...he's a democrat and against the new law. He also claimed that a crazy right wing conspirator was to blame for the shooting of congresswoman Giffords.
(too bad he jumped to conclusions on that one)...but what I'm saying is that there is more than one sheriff in Arizona - maybe our president just "jumped to conclusions" because he is a minority...statisticians claim that white people will be the minority someday soon anyway...in 2008 48% of births in the US were to minorities.
...then what will you complain about Larry?...something to think about....

Jack King

Sherrif Joe, my hero. The only man to stand up to the illegals. Meantime the Man-child sends 1700 AKS to Mexican Drug Lords.

Librul Larry

IIRC, the Bush admin did a fantastic job with illegal immigrants. We should go back to that. It's incredible how many people have crossed just in the last two years.

Anyone that thinks Obama's scenario is implausible isn't familiar with Sherrif Joe and has never spent a day as a minority.

Jack King

If the Man-child regime would just secure our southern border all this discussion would be pointless. I would bet $100 to a do-nut that if all these illegal aliens coming here pledged to vote fraudjulently for Republicans there would be three express highways south to Mexico for semi's to cart them home!


gg - think he's just now bringing up Arizonia since Kansas wants the same law...
At the time though...Obama was just stating his opinion without any thought as to the actual law...as I said...he hadn't even read it...but, anyway - we'll have to wait & see.


Okay just had to look up Obama's comments only to find he made them a year ago. What a weird letter - is Bob just catching up? So as improbable as Obama's scenario seems, Holder did challenge the law and the part that applies to Obama's comments was deemed unconstitutional and blocked by a judge. I guess the scenario didn't seem improbable to her...


gg...still don't agree that Obama's scenario would ever happen and...he even admited later that he hadn't read the bill...but, we'll just have to wait and see what will happen...


Okay...changing the argument? ;)


...seems the major infraction is that the federal government is supposed to protect the borders and follow the laws of immigration...not the state...


Yes I'd say its mostly true. There has to be some legal infraction, no matter how minor. Say a person who is brown, or maybe who is speaking spanish jaywalked with his kid to get to the ice cream truck. A cop could, with questioning (I would classify this as harassment if the charge is jaywalking), legally force the person to produce citizenship papers under the threat of being arrested.

This is one of the provisions of the law that was struck down as unconstitutional by Judge Bolton, but that is being appealed.


LL...how true, but Obama is who he is. He said what he meant. That is the problem.

About KansasCity.com | About the Real Cities Network | Terms of Use & Privacy Statement | About Knight Ridder | Copyright