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October 31, 2011

Death penalty in U.S.

Contrary to what some people might think, the death penalty is not immoral. Taking the life of another person deserves a greater punishment than incarceration, and by executing the ones responsible it prevents them from repeating the same crime.

It is wrong for us to simply imprison someone for murder, when the same punishment is being handed out for much lesser crimes. A human life is much more valuable than any material item.

Locking murderers up in an air-conditioned facility, giving them three meals a day, personal recreation time and family visits is a “slap in the face of morality,” says Casey Carmical, author of Ethics of Capital Punishment.

Some will claim that the death penalty is in violation of the Eighth Amendment, but it is not. To claim that cruel and unusual punishment references the death penalty would be ridiculous.

Sydney Buckley
Lee’s Summit

Comments

Nehemiah


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Tia

And when you've taken the life of an innocent man, Sydney, do we get to take yours? Should the judge and jury who wrongly convict an innocent man for a murder he did not commit have their lives taken away from them to punish them for murdering an innocent man?

There is no need for the death penalty in this country. It is more expensive to carry out the death penalty than it is to incarcerate a criminal for life. It deters no one -- the kinds of murders that even qualify for the death penalty in most states are perpetrated by people who are so far gone nothing will deter them any more.

The death penalty is barbaric and pointless. It feeds our baser desire for revenge, not a call for justice.

solomon

.......bad enough when Lenexa people criticize what we do in Kansas City....

Dorina Lisson (ACADP Australia)

The death penalty is a discriminative 'Government Program'. In the meantime, the USA is keeping close company with the following death penalty united nations:

United States of America, Afghanistan, Algeria, Antigua, Barbuda, Benin, Brunei, Burkina Faso, Barbuda, Bahamas, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Barbados, Belarus, Belize, Botswana, Cameroon, Chad, China, Comoros, Congo, Cuba, Central African Republic, Dominica, Egypt, Equatorial Guinea, Ethiopia, Eritrea, Gabon, Gambia, Ghana, Grenada, Guatemala, Guinea, Guyana, India, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Jamaica, Japan, Jordan, Kuwait, Laos, Lebanon, Lesotho, Liberia, Libya, Malaysia, Mongolia, Nigeria, North Korea, Kenya, Madagascar, Malawi, Maldives, Mali, Mauritania, Morocco, Myanmar, Nauru, Niger, Nigeria, Oman, Papua New Guinea, Pakistan, Palestinian Authority, Qatar, Russian Federation, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and Grenadines, Saudi Arabia, Sierra Leone, Singapore, Somalia, South Korea, Sudan, Syria, Sri Lanka, Suriname, Swaziland, Taiwan, Tajikistan, Tanzania, Thailand, Trinidad and Tobago, Tonga, Tunisia, Uganda, United Arab Emirates, Vietnam, Yemen, Zambia, Zimbabwe.

Big Daddy

"PS. I'm a bleeding heart about most issues. It's one of the things I like best about me."

...I guess everyone needs a peg to hang their hat on. If that is yours, so be it. But me and the rest of the country quite watching Mr. Rogers Neighborhood many years ago and, instead, chose to live in reality.

And "O", I make no bones about it. I care about the deeply about the victims and the survivors. I don't give one butt pimple about the slimy scum bags that commit these crimes. I don't lose a moments sleep over their executions and would be lying if I said that my feelings are not tinged with at least a little bit of revenge. That being said, justice is what is called for and justice is what is being carried out. The two are not mutually exclusive.

o

Thanks D: "I won't be there to administer justice...I will be administering revenge."

Anyone that feels justice is being served is fooling themselves. It's nothing more than emotionally administered revenge.

ggbridge

Well, BD, at least you've given up on the ridiculous "deterrence" argument and shown your true colors. Revenge isn't pretty.

PS. I'm a bleeding heart about most issues. It's one of the things I like best about me.

Dudley Sharp

The case for Todd Willingham's guilt is solid.

"Cameron Todd Willingham: Another Media Meltdown", A Collection of Articles
http://homicidesurvivors.com/categories/Cameron%20Todd%20Willingham.aspx


The false innocence claims by anti death penalty activists are legendary. Some additonal examples:

4) "The Innocent Executed: Deception & Death Penalty Opponents"
http://homicidesurvivors.com/2009/10/08/the-innocent-executed-deception--death-penalty-opponents--draft.aspx

5) The 130 (now 138) death row "innocents" scam
http://homicidesurvivors.com/2009/03/04/fact-checking-issues-on-innocence-and-the-death-penalty.aspx

6) Sister Helen Prejean & the death penalty: A Critical Review"
http://homicidesurvivors.com/2009/05/04/sister-helen-prejean--the-death-penalty-a-critical-review.aspx

7) "At the Death House Door" Can Rev. Carroll Pickett be trusted?"
http://homicidesurvivors.com/2009/01/30/fact-checking-is-very-welcome.aspx

Dudley Sharp

The Death Penalty: Saving Innocent Live

Of all human endeavors that put innocents at risk, is there one with a better record of sparing innocent lives than the US death penalty?

Unlikely.

1) "The Death Penalty: More Protection for Innocents"
http://homicidesurvivors.com/2009/07/05/the-death-penalty-more-protection-for-innocents.aspx

2) Opponents in capital punishment have blood on their hands, Dennis Prager, 11/29/05, http://townhall.com/columnists/DennisPrager/2005/11/29/opponents_in_capital_punishment_have_blood_on_their_hands

3) "A Death Penalty Red Herring: The Inanity and Hypocrisy of Perfection", Lester Jackson Ph.D.,
http://www.tcsdaily.com/article.aspx?id=102909A

Dudley Sharp

The case for Todd Willingham's guilt is solid.

"Cameron Todd Willingham: Another Media Meltdown", A Collection of Articles
http://homicidesurvivors.com/categories/Cameron%20Todd%20Willingham.aspx


The false innocence claims by anti death penalty activists are legendary. Some additonal examples:

4) "The Innocent Executed: Deception & Death Penalty Opponents"
http://homicidesurvivors.com/2009/10/08/the-innocent-executed-deception--death-penalty-opponents--draft.aspx

5) The 130 (now 138) death row "innocents" scam
http://homicidesurvivors.com/2009/03/04/fact-checking-issues-on-innocence-and-the-death-penalty.aspx

6) Sister Helen Prejean & the death penalty: A Critical Review"
http://homicidesurvivors.com/2009/05/04/sister-helen-prejean--the-death-penalty-a-critical-review.aspx

7) "At the Death House Door" Can Rev. Carroll Pickett be trusted?"
http://homicidesurvivors.com/2009/01/30/fact-checking-is-very-welcome.aspx


Kate

Yes. I think a decade or so between conviction and execution allows for adequate appeals.

Big Daddy

gg, you've shown yourself to be a bleeding heart when it comes to this issue. You get to crow sanctimoniously about how the death penalty is racially biased and is risking innocent lives. Baloney!

People who are put to death are put to death because they deserve it. It has nothing to do with their race and since it takes, on average, 12 years and countless appeals to be exhausted before the sentence is carried out...the chances of killing an innocent person are slim to none (and slim just left the room).

But harsh truth is that your solution of locking these criminals up and throwing away the key is much worse than the death penalty. They will spend decades locked up with others who prey on each other every day for food, sex, and entertainment. With no hope of ever being paroled, that sounds exponentially worse than the death penalty.

And because of you and people like you, we are so careful about not causing any undue stress to the inmate as we carry out the sentence. They are given last meals, last rights, laid down in a death chamber, are administered medication that prevents them from feeling pain and then administered medicadtion that simply allows them to peacefully drift off to sleep.

I will say that should one of these idiots cause a problem in my family they had better hope it's the state that administers the sentence. Because If I am able to catch the gutless prick their last moments won't be so "relaxing". I won't be there to administer justice...I will be administering revenge.

ggbridge

Kate, read http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/09/07/090907fa_fact_grann?currentPage=1

Our own candidate Rick Perry had a hand in the state murder of Cameron Todd Willingham. DNA has exonerated those whose appeals were up. I suppose you are also satisfied with the racial disparity in how the death penalty is applied? Well, as long as you are comfortable...

Kate

Justice. It's justice, not revenge.

o

Kate, I guess you and I come from two different places. I can separate the value of a life from the crimes one commits. Yes, the person must be punished for their crimes, but the sanctity of life keeps me from seeking revenge.

Kate

jpo, I'm comfortable with the level of protection our appeals system provides to those on death row. They have decades to prove they were wrongly convicted.

And "o", of course we value life. Bus some crimes are so horrendous that the one who commits them must pay with that which we value most - his life. Even then, we value the murder's life so highly that we've structured our judicial system to give him every possible chance to prove his innocence.

o

I think the letter writer says it best himself, amid all the rambling, “A human life is much more valuable than any material item.”

After taking all evidence, guilt, mental illness and injustices into consideration, the person charged with the crime is still human. Let’s put some of that ‘value’ you spoke so eloquently about on every human life.

JDog

Prison, for the majority of prisoners, is an upgrade to their life in main strean society.
I have trouble with the idea (proven) that innocent people can be put to death. I also have trouble with spending $60-$90k per year to incarcerate these people for 10. 20 40+ years.
Now, if you trulely want to bring back "hard labor" and "chain gangs" I could be pursuaded to forego the Death Penalty. But giving these people A/C, a libary, internet access, visitations and three meals a day is just WRONG. Don't believe me? Go ask the victim.

Jpo

Not every appeal results in a retrial, and not everyone who seeks it is granted habeas corpus before their execution date. So I'm suggesting that because the courts have, in hundreds of cases, convicted people for crimes they haven't committed, we shouldn't expect, much less guarantee, that all those executed were guilty.

Kate

You seem to be saying that when an appeal results in the exoneration of a person, it is proof the system doesn't work - when in fact, the appeal itself is part of the system.

 
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